Well played, sir
On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 4:30 PM, Corey Floyd <[email protected]> wrote: > But can the apps' reading experience make the Kessel Run in less than 12 > Parsecs? > > And, quite frankly, we have to remind ourselves that the apps are still > light years away from having a good editing experience. > > > > > On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Gergo Tisza <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 10:52 AM, Dmitry Brant <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> But more importantly, you mentioned yourself that talk pages are really >>> part of the _editing_ experience. And, quite frankly, we have to remind >>> ourselves that the apps are still light years away from having a good >>> editing experience. Therefore, providing access to talk pages without >>> providing the other fundamentals that are central to editing (moderation >>> tools, watchlists, diffs, notifications, etc) may be putting the cart >>> before the horse, and may lead to confusion. In fact, I'm not sure if any >>> *one* of those editing features makes sense without all the others. And to >>> implement all of those features in the apps would require a department-wide >>> focus on editing, which is currently not the case. >>> >> >> Most editors probably own multiple devices, so a partial but good editing >> experience is probably more useful than a full but poor one. Large-scale >> article editing is never going to be competitive on mobile due to the >> inherent limitations of the platform such as the tiny display and slow text >> input, so most editors will always use their laptops for that. But if other >> pieces of their workload, which *can* be done well on mobile (such as >> messaging or patrolling or processing certain backlogs) are well-supported, >> that means more desktop time for actual article editing. >> >> So I don't think the kind of interdependencies that you mention exist. >> Much of the talk page communication can be detached from editing and done >> in a different part of the day, and providing an interface for that will >> mean that editors can check their messages while on the bus and do the >> editing when at home. (And for users who do not have other means to access >> Wikipedia than a phone, a partial experience is probably still better than >> no experience.) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mobile-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l >> >> > > > -- > Corey Floyd > Software Engineer > Mobile Apps / iOS > Wikimedia Foundation > > _______________________________________________ > Mobile-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l > > -- EN Wikipedia user page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Brian.gerstle IRC: bgerstle
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