At 11:08 AM 12/13/00 -0700, Nathan Torkington wrote:
>J. J. Horner writes:
> > What is the story on these tutorials? Is it something you can
> > distribute, or did most of it come off of the top your head?
>
>Tutorials seems like a deadend for effort. I've had zero (0)
>responses to my offer of my "Introduction to mod_perl" tutorial.
Whoops. I am actually very interested. I didn't post earlier for a couple
reasons.
1) I actually figured I would collect the replies I've seen on the subject
for a few days, think about all the responses (public and private) and kind
of summarize them this weekend.
2) I've been going through your slides and thinking about how to turn a
"monolithic" powerpoint into something that people can act upon
collaboratively and through CVS.
I guess part of the problem is that PPT is a binary file so if someone
checks out of CVS, and modifies slide 3 and another person modifies slide
1, there's really no way of piecing it together again without being annoyed
by CVS update.
Another mechanism would be to just have a couple people "own" each day of
slides and take comments from the community to put them in those slides.
PPT is definintely an easier format to code slides in than HTML as I
suggested earlier would be easier from a CVS perspective. But it's just not
CVS friendly.
Anyway, it looks like it is a well thought out progenitor to an open source
"hands on" tutorial. And what it did was that it started me introspecting
on the logistics of what it will really take to do this as open source and
how it could be split into chunks of work.
For example, you mentioned that suggested teaching notes should be attached
to each slide. Maybe it would make sense for the slides to stay fairly
unchanging but the teaching notes, rather than using PPT notes, should be
separate POD files that document each slide. So day1-slide1.pod (Although
this would not stand up very well if a slide gets inserted in the mix!).
Anyway, I hope posting some of these ideas about that project assures you
I've definitely been interested and thinking about it. I was hoping to
rather post an initial proposal of how to turn 1 PPT slidebase into an open
source project first and allow discussion around that rather than just open
up all these questions.
But perhaps it's better to just open up the questions first (in the open
source way).
Later,
Gunther
>If nobody's interested in increasing the number of mod_perl
>programmers through tutorials, then the only other option I can think
>of is strategically-placed success stories.
>
>I know that perl.oreilly.com is making a point of collecting Perl
>success stories and is always hungry for more. They won't convert
>the unwashed there, though.
>
>It'd sure be nice to have a WebTechniques special issue on mod_perl.
>Hint, hint, Randal :-)
>
>Nat
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