"Ed Park" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I really like the look of the take23 site as well, and I would be happy as
a
> clam if we could get modperl.org. I'd even be willing to chip in some
> (money/time/effort) to see whether we could get modperl.org.
ok, money is tight and time is short but here's a shred of effort:
modperl.org is registered to Baiju Thakkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "the
O'Reilly Network's Bureau Chief for Linux, and the founder of linuxmonth.com
and perlmonth.com", according to: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/au/37 so we
might presume that Mr. Thakkar could be willing to cooperate with an
organized effort to maintain content on the domain.
like i said, i'm kinda new, but from brian's and Robin's remarks, it seems
that committment (and followup) is a bit in short supply. not surprising,
tho. we all have a living to make. plus I've found that most programmers
don't like to "do html" (in quantity), preferring instead to write programs
that do (and coincidentally i've also found that graphic designers who live
in Phoshop don't like to "do" too much html either, resulting in a labor
shortage of "html technologists"), and as a result hard-technology oriented
sites like perl.apache.org tend to look, well.... like perl.apache.org...
so, towards organizing an effort to propose to Mr. Thakkar for our grand
plans to populate his domain name with relevent, stylish and fresh
mod_perlage, i'm glad to do whatever i can to help. i personally happen to
*like* doing big sites full of complicated xhtml-compliant cross-browser
html (please don't tell anyone, tho :-)) ...of course i'm not masochistic
and *am* really lazy too, so i prefer to design few and deploy many using
templates, but (a great looking useful) modperl.org would be a site i could
definitely sink my teeth into.
if that means day to day floor-sweeping, email-answering or that brian
mail-bombs me all his, (ahem) "...much random content laying around the
perl.apache.org site, in so many random formats" and i take on the task of
reformatting it to some digestable flavor of xml, "i'm down with it" (...a
term which, my daughter tells me, means what "i'm up to it" used to mean
<g>)
> More than that, though, I think that I would really like to see take23 in
> large measure replace the current perl.apache.org. I remember the first
time
> I looked at perl.apache.org, it was not at all clear to me that I could
> build a fast database-backed web application using mod_perl.
>
[all mention of heretic php technologies snipped]
well, hmmm. i won't presume to suggest that Matt rename take23.org (again)
to modperl.org (tho that certainly would be a slam dunk) but he has done a
lot of fine work combining plentiful content with great form, and if it
stays fresh, such a site *will* replace perl.apache.org (in traffic and
popularity, even if not in name).
> Anyways, those are my own biases. The final bias is that the advocacy site
> should be hosted someplace _fast_; one of the reasons I initially avoided
> PHP was that their _site_ was dog slow, and I associated that with PHP
being
> dog slow. Anyways, take23 is very fast for now.
i agree. the site must be hosted professionally or not at all. having a
slow, unstable or buggy advocacy site would be have of a rather immediate
and opposite effect to advocating mod_perl and wining "mindshare". of
course this is where cash is the only cure. (perhaps some secret corporate
benefactor will bless us with colocated hosting in a nice big multi-homed
datacenter).
and, IMO an advocacy site really MUST run on mod_perl, mustn't it? i mean
really, how many people would believe Apache was a great webserver if
apache.org was hosted on an IIS server?
-dave
