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Great question, but did anyone ever mention Challange-Response in anything
about MM3?

You mention CR like it is a fact, then start asking questions about plans to
offset challenge-response problems and YahooGroups etc. and potential flaws
in CR.

What if it does't use CR?

Just curious too.
:-)
Cary Fitch




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ken Grimes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 10:17 PM
Subject: [Modus] When is 3.0 due out?


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>
> While holding my breath for the November 3rd release, we have a few
> questions for the beta testers if it doesn't violate their NDA's.  First,
I
> read from the list that the companies that are currently running the M3
> setup have all experienced great results with filtering the spammers known
> techniques but are these due to the next generation Sieve filters or are
> these the result of "server wide" whitelisting/blacklisting or
> challenge/response?  If you answer to the first question is "yes", have
you
> contacted all your customers to make them aware of the new
> challenge/response system just to pre-warn them of the possible delays in
> message receipt?  Second question, of the companies and domains using the
> challenge response is there anyone whom has put together a list of
important
> newsgroups that we could implement prior to customer complaints about
their
> Yahoo Groups now not being received because of their non-response
capacity?
> Thirdly, has anyone had experience with third party mail relaying with
> regards to what additional functionality can you filter for these servers?
> In other words, in Modus 2.x we can select filtering of SPAM, VIRUS, or
> ATTACHMENTS independently, will version M3 allow the additional the new
> white/black or challenge/response options for relays?  Fourth, if you have
> implemented the challenge/response how does M3 perform with massive spam
> attacks from the same IP if using different forged return addresses?  In
> other words, if 20,000 messages come from 80.123.123.123 all with
different
> forged return addresses will it perform challenges for each message or
will
> it cache it's results and prevent wasted bandwidth by auto "identifying" a
> new spammers IP that may not be blocked by the RBL's yet.
>
> Just curious about these in advance,
> Ken Grimes
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mike Herrera" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 4:53 PM
> Subject: [Modus] When is 3.0 due out?
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> > We see fewer false positives now than when we were using Modus 2 along
> > with spamassassin!  The nice thing is that users will be able to go into
> > their quarantines and check for them and can add them themselves to
> > their whitelist.
> >
> > MikeH
> >
> >
> > ---- 
> >
> > I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing!
> >
> > Mike Herrera
> > Access One Online Services
> > http://www.access-one.com
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > Behalf Of Robert Sinclair
> > Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 4:40 PM
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> > Subject: [Modus] When is 3.0 due out?
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> > What about false positives? How well is it handling those?
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Mike Herrera" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 12:58 PM
> > Subject: [Modus] When is 3.0 due out?
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