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Cary,

I was just ASSuming....you know what they say about that?!?!  I think I may
have read it on another list we subscribe to and transposed the idea to this
list.  Sorry to the list....but any other answers would be appreciated.

Ken Grimes


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cary Fitch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 10:32 PM
Subject: [Modus] When is 3.0 due out?


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>
> Great question, but did anyone ever mention Challange-Response in anything
> about MM3?
>
> You mention CR like it is a fact, then start asking questions about plans
to
> offset challenge-response problems and YahooGroups etc. and potential
flaws
> in CR.
>
> What if it does't use CR?
>
> Just curious too.
> :-)
> Cary Fitch
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ken Grimes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 10:17 PM
> Subject: [Modus] When is 3.0 due out?
>
>
> > * This is the modus mailing list *
> >
> > While holding my breath for the November 3rd release, we have a few
> > questions for the beta testers if it doesn't violate their NDA's.
First,
> I
> > read from the list that the companies that are currently running the M3
> > setup have all experienced great results with filtering the spammers
known
> > techniques but are these due to the next generation Sieve filters or are
> > these the result of "server wide" whitelisting/blacklisting or
> > challenge/response?  If you answer to the first question is "yes", have
> you
> > contacted all your customers to make them aware of the new
> > challenge/response system just to pre-warn them of the possible delays
in
> > message receipt?  Second question, of the companies and domains using
the
> > challenge response is there anyone whom has put together a list of
> important
> > newsgroups that we could implement prior to customer complaints about
> their
> > Yahoo Groups now not being received because of their non-response
> capacity?
> > Thirdly, has anyone had experience with third party mail relaying with
> > regards to what additional functionality can you filter for these
servers?
> > In other words, in Modus 2.x we can select filtering of SPAM, VIRUS, or
> > ATTACHMENTS independently, will version M3 allow the additional the new
> > white/black or challenge/response options for relays?  Fourth, if you
have
> > implemented the challenge/response how does M3 perform with massive spam
> > attacks from the same IP if using different forged return addresses?  In
> > other words, if 20,000 messages come from 80.123.123.123 all with
> different
> > forged return addresses will it perform challenges for each message or
> will
> > it cache it's results and prevent wasted bandwidth by auto "identifying"
a
> > new spammers IP that may not be blocked by the RBL's yet.
> >
> > Just curious about these in advance,
> > Ken Grimes
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Mike Herrera" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 4:53 PM
> > Subject: [Modus] When is 3.0 due out?
> >
> >
> > > * This is the modus mailing list *
> > >
> > > We see fewer false positives now than when we were using Modus 2 along
> > > with spamassassin!  The nice thing is that users will be able to go
into
> > > their quarantines and check for them and can add them themselves to
> > > their whitelist.
> > >
> > > MikeH
> > >
> > >
> > > ---- 
> > >
> > > I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing!
> > >
> > > Mike Herrera
> > > Access One Online Services
> > > http://www.access-one.com
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > > Behalf Of Robert Sinclair
> > > Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 4:40 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: [Modus] When is 3.0 due out?
> > >
> > >
> > > * This is the modus mailing list *
> > >
> > > What about false positives? How well is it handling those?
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Mike Herrera" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 12:58 PM
> > > Subject: [Modus] When is 3.0 due out?
> > >
> > >
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