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Gary

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Fix 3rd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 12:24 PM
Subject: [Modus] Bad Bad News


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> John 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Carr
> > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 12:12 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [Modus] Bad Bad News
> > 
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> > 
> > Subject: [easynet.nl] HEADS UP - The easynet blacklists will 
> > be discontinued Dec 1 2003
> > 
> > S.P.Q.N.A.N.A.E atque N.I.M. (tinspqnaneatquenim),
> > 
> > The easynet blacklists/spamfilters (blackholes.easynet.nl, 
> > proxies.blackholes.easynet.nl, dynablock.easynet.nl, 
> > spamdomains.blackholes.easynet.nl, and the easynet spamlists) 
> > will be discontinued starting Dec 1 2003.
> > 
> > The zonefiles and associated files will be 'zero-sized' on 
> > that day. The domains will continue to resolve for a long 
> > time, but they will contain nothing more than the test 
> > records (127.0.0.2 and example.com), so they will not catch anything.
> > 
> > Holy Crap!
> > - Yep.
> > 
> > FAQ?
> > - Sure.
> > 
> > Are you being DDos'ed out of existence?
> > - Nope. They probably tried. We didn't even notice it.
> > 
> > Are you being sued?
> > - Nope. They probably tried. We didn't even notice it.
> > 
> > Are you being threatened?
> > - Frankly, we will miss that part.
> > 
> > Are you tired?
> > - Damn right.
> > 
> > Are you giving up?
> > - That is not the right word. There are plenty of fine 
> > blacklists, and new ones spring up every day. The 
> > wirehub/easynet lists served their purpose, but others may 
> > serve that purpose equally well.
> > 
> > Isn't this all kinda sudden?
> > - Yes. Sometimes, you just know that it's time to say 
> > goodbye. And the moment you know it, you must do it. Running 
> > blacklists on anything less than 100% motivation and energy 
> > is not how it should be done.
> > 
> > Anything else?
> > - Sure. These blacklists were maintained by a single person, 
> > all of them.
> > Every day. Listings, delistings, finding new DSL/cable 
> > ranges, finding new open proxies, writing better scripts, 
> > handling all email, running statistics, publishing overviews, 
> > providing rsync areas, DNS tranfers. You name it. TINW. 
> > There's an I. And I want my life back, at least a little ;)
> > 
> > Life?
> > - Yes. Maybe not as we know it. Over the past 3-4 years, the 
> > maintainer of these lists has worked 7 days a week, 10-12 
> > hours a day running these lists and handling all tasks and 
> > email associated with them. Not a single day has passed 
> > without at least processing delisting requests (the bare minimum).
> > And then there was the day job (which was really nothing more 
> > than running an ISP's server farm - peanuts, it's FreeBSD).
> > 
> > Is that all?
> > - There's more to it, but the details do not really concern 
> > you. Let's just say that the integrity of these lists might 
> > have been in jeopardy in the long run. There are two cardinal 
> > sins when it comes to blacklists: 1.
> > putting/keeping someone on them who should not be - 2. not 
> > putting someone on them who really should be. Avoiding '1' is 
> > a matter of discipline and a thick skin. Avoiding '2' is a 
> > matter of being totally independent from all pressures 
> > surrounding you. Avoiding '2' has become increasingly 
> > difficult, and we'd rather stop with our integrity fully 
> > intact and our reputation unharmed. That is about now. Well, 
> > next week.
> > 
> > We?
> > - Yes, dropping that habit will take some time ;)
> > 
> > Will you be back?
> > - Probably. Lurking.
> > 
> > Will you miss us?
> > - Depends on how well target practice goes.
> > 
> > Should we give up The Good Fight?
> > - Hell no, we're winning. There's plenty of enthusiasm, and 
> > there are plenty of new and old blacklists doing fine work. 
> > Take your pick. Keep fighting.
> > Fight for your spam laws. Educate. Annoy. Sue if you must. 
> > It's up to you now.
> > 
> > Is there anything we can do?
> > - Yes. Spread the word, please. Post to your local/national 
> > abuse groups, inform anyone you know who uses these lists, 
> > update your configurations.
> > Nothing will break after Dec 1, but there will come a day 
> > when these names (including the old Wirehub ones, which still 
> > resolve) will cease to resolve.
> > This will probably be announced.
> > 
> > Will the lists be back under a different name?
> > - Probably not. It started out as 'doing some extra work to 
> > stop spam', because .. well .. FreeBSD and such, plenty of 
> > time left. And why not donate that work to the Internet 
> > community as well. In the long run. it turned out to be 
> > 'getting some sleep and maybe something to eat between emails 
> > and zone updates'. Sometimes, enough is just enough.
> > 
> > Can't you just maintain one or two of the lists?
> > - What did I just say?
> > 
> > I have a question!
> > - The email address will probably work throughout December. 
> > It may drop dead after that. Hope I won't.
> > 
> > Goodbye all. It was invigorating, it was fun, it was 
> > necessary. Don't give up.
> > 
> > Ben.
> > 
> > 
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