What were the actual lines that the install-module command output? It would not 
have been written as that but should have used an absolute path I think, plus 
may have had a WSGIPythonHome directive as well if mod_wsgi were installed into 
a Python virtual environment.

Also, what are the exact messages that Apache outputs in the error log when 
failing to load it?

Graham

> On 11 Jun 2021, at 5:22 am, Bob Bobsled <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Graham,
> Unraveling the fedora httpd sub directories is actually not too bad. But the 
> problem I'm having is getting httpd to load the module via the 
> /etc/httpd/conf.modules.d directory which has a 10-mod_wsig.conf file place 
> there which says:
> 
> <IfModule !wsgi_module>
>      LoadModule wsgi_module 
> modules/mod_wsgi_py39.cpython-39-x86_64-linux-gnu.so 
> <http://mod_wsgi_py39.cpython-39-x86_64-linux-gnu.so/>
> </IfModule>
> 
> httpd keeps saying it cannot load the module, however it is there because 
> mod_wsgi-express copied it there.
> 
> I tried maybe finding a SONAME for the .so file, but there doesn't seem to be 
> one, so I'm not sure what it's hung up on with the naming conventions.  I 
> also set permissions consistent with the other modules.
> 
> Regards,
> Bob
> 
> On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 11:43 AM Graham Dumpleton <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> Not much I can do to help you with where you should put config when using 
> system Apache of a specific operating system. CentOS/RHEL, Fedora and 
> Debian/Ubuntu all set different requirements on where to place things and I 
> am not familiar with how each does it. Unless someone else on the list can 
> help with how Fedora does it, best I can suggest is you look at the Fedora 
> documentation which I would hope explains it.
> 
> Graham
> 
>> On 10 Jun 2021, at 4:52 am, Bob Bobsled <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> Thank you Graham for your response.  Always helpful.
>> 
>> From my virtualenv I can run mod_wsgi-express start-server, and see malt 
>> whiskey at localhost:8000.
>> 
>> My goal would be to just have the mod run when apache starts, so the box can 
>> stay running, and folks can access the Django website when they need to 
>> (although it's only for local access, and we're behind a firewall and only 
>> using http).  
>> 
>> So I'm thinking the manually configured apache approach is what I need to 
>> do.  I tried elevating to root and running mod_wsgi-express install-module:
>> 
>> (myenv) [root@localhost bin]# ./mod_wsgi-express install-module
>> LoadModule wsgi_module 
>> "/usr/lib64/httpd/modules/mod_wsgi-py39.cpython-39-x86_64-linux-gnu.so 
>> <http://mod_wsgi-py39.cpython-39-x86_64-linux-gnu.so/>"
>> 
>> On fedora34, that copes the library to:
>> /etc/httpd/modules
>> 
>> In fedora34 I have httpd directories (all under root ownership):
>> /etc/httpd/conf
>> /etc/httpd/conf.d
>> /etc/httpd/conf.modules.d
>> /etc/httpd/logs
>> /etc/httpd/modules
>> /etc/httpd/run
>> /etc/httpd/state
>> 
>> I'm confused about where to place the config file(s) which contains the 
>> httpd directives such as LoadModule wsgi_module, WSGIPythonHome, 
>> WSGIDaemonProcess, etc. as well as directory permissions and any virtual 
>> host setup.
>> 
>> On fedora34:
>> /etc/httpd/conf/ contains the general httpd.conf file
>> 
>> /etc/httpd/conf.d  is for individual app config files?  ex. mod_dnssd.conf, 
>> php.conf etc.
>>      "The directory is used in addition to the directory 
>> /etc/httpd/conf.modules.d/, which contains
>>       configuration files necessary to load modules."
>> 
>> /etc/httpd/conf.modules.d  is for two-digit, numbered .conf files, ex. 
>> 10-mod_dnssd.conf, etc.
>>      "This directory contains configuration fragments necessary only to load 
>> modules.
>>       Administrators should use the directory "/etc/httpd/conf.d" to modify
>>       the configuration of httpd, or any modules."
>> 
>> vhosts seems to be in a weird place on Fedora (also under root ownership):
>> /usr/share/doc/httpd/httpd-vhosts.conf
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Bob
>> 
>> On Tue, Jun 8, 2021 at 12:47 PM Graham Dumpleton <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> If the intent is to use mod_wsgi-express to host the application, you don't 
>> need to install the module into the system wide Apache using 
>> "install-module".
>> 
>> One you have run pip install, run:
>> 
>>     mod_wsgi-express start-server
>> 
>> and verify it starts. Then use mod_wsgi-start start-server with your 
>> application as explained in:
>> 
>> http://blog.dscpl.com.au/2015/04/introducing-modwsgi-express.html 
>> <http://blog.dscpl.com.au/2015/04/introducing-modwsgi-express.html>
>> http://blog.dscpl.com.au/2015/04/integrating-modwsgi-express-as-django.html 
>> <http://blog.dscpl.com.au/2015/04/integrating-modwsgi-express-as-django.html>
>> http://blog.dscpl.com.au/2015/05/using-modwsgi-express-as-development.html 
>> <http://blog.dscpl.com.au/2015/05/using-modwsgi-express-as-development.html>
>> 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPz0s1CQsTE&t=7s 
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPz0s1CQsTE&t=7s>
>> 
>> If you really want to go the way of manually configuring the system Apache 
>> for mod_wsgi instead, the "install-module" command will only work if done as 
>> root, so you need to use "sudo" to run it.
>> 
>> Graham
>> 
>>> On 9 Jun 2021, at 5:20 am, Bob Bobsled <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Graham,
>>> 
>>> OK. I did that. (I was hoping to avoid virtualenv, since django is the only 
>>> main python app I'm using on that fedora box, but glad to set one up if 
>>> that helps).  
>>> I do have a conflict with the django port for another web app, however.  A 
>>> couple years ago you helped me thru a django setup on a windows box using 
>>> wamp,
>>> where you suggested nip.io <http://nip.io/> for the conflict problem.  That 
>>> seemed to work okay, but I haven't been able to get it worked out on the 
>>> fedora box yet because
>>> still struggling with mod_wsgi part.
>>> 
>>> From the activated virtualenv the mod_wsgi-express install-module command 
>>> is still giving me a permission error on /usr/lib64...
>>> 
>>> On fedora I have one user, refstudent who is admin.  My /opt directory and 
>>> contents are all under the refstudent user and group and chmod 777 
>>> permission
>>> on /opt and all contents.   /home is under root, but /home/refstudent is 
>>> under refstudent user and group with 777 permission on all contents.
>>> Everything else on the box is under root.  My django website is in 
>>> /var/www/html/mysite.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> (myenv) [refstudent@localhost myenv]$ mod_wsgi-express install-module
>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>   File "/opt/myenv/bin/mod_wsgi-express", line 33, in <module>
>>>     sys.exit(load_entry_point('mod-wsgi==4.8.0', 'console_scripts', 
>>> 'mod_wsgi-express')())
>>>   File 
>>> "/opt/myenv/lib64/python3.9/site-packages/mod_wsgi/server/__init__.py", 
>>> line 3830, in main
>>>     cmd_install_module(args)
>>>   File 
>>> "/opt/myenv/lib64/python3.9/site-packages/mod_wsgi/server/__init__.py", 
>>> line 3766, in cmd_install_module
>>>     shutil.copyfile(where(), target)
>>>   File "/usr/lib64/python3.9/shutil.py", line 264, in copyfile
>>>     with open(src, 'rb') as fsrc, open(dst, 'wb') as fdst:
>>> PermissionError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: 
>>> '/usr/lib64/httpd/modules/mod_wsgi-py39.cpython-39-x86_64-linux-gnu.so 
>>> <http://mod_wsgi-py39.cpython-39-x86_64-linux-gnu.so/>'
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Bob
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Jun 7, 2021 at 3:01 PM Graham Dumpleton <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> You seem to have multiple installs conflicting with each other. Would 
>>> suggest ensuring you uninstall all the mod_wsgi versions installed in 
>>> different ways.
>>> 
>>> Once that is done, create a Python virtual environment instead, activate it 
>>> and pip install mod_wsgi into that. Don't install into system Python or per 
>>> user Python.
>>> 
>>> When have cleaned up and removed existing installs and tried the virtual 
>>> environment method come back and indicate what problem you have at that 
>>> point.
>>> 
>>> Graham
>>> 
>>>> On 8 Jun 2021, at 10:57 am, Bob Bobsled <[email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello Graham,
>>>> 
>>>> I have tried unsuccessfully to get mod-wsgi working for Django, and httpd 
>>>> on fedora34.
>>>> 
>>>> I tried the CMMI method first, downloading/configuring/make/install, but 
>>>> the instructions give out at the point of knowing what to do after getting 
>>>> the module into etc/httpd/modules.  I'm stuck figuring out how to continue 
>>>> with where to place a .config file and how to fiddle with vhosts etc.
>>>> 
>>>> So I moved on to dnf install python3-mod_wsgi, but that seems to be an 
>>>> older version and doesn't have the niceties of mod_wsgi-express.
>>>> 
>>>> Then I tried, as root, pip3 install mod_wsgi, but that seems to bugger the 
>>>> permissions.
>>>> 
>>>> Fourth try was as user pip3 install --user mod_wsgi but it seems to put 
>>>> everything in odd places.
>>>> For ex. mod_wsgi-express winds up in .local/bin, instead of usr/bin, but 
>>>> nevertheless when I run it from .loca/bin with the install-module 
>>>> directive I get permission denied on 
>>>> /usr/lib64/modules/mod_wsgi-py39.cpython-39-x86_64-linux-gnu.so 
>>>> <http://mod_wsgi-py39.cpython-39-x86_64-linux-gnu.so/>
>>>> 
>>>> I'd be really grateful for some advice on the best way to get it working 
>>>> in fedora34.  I'm glad to try anyway you might suggest.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Bob
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