And did you try using the config output by install-module instead?

LoadModule wsgi_module 
"/usr/lib64/httpd/modules/mod_wsgi-py39.cpython-39-x86_64-linux-gnu.so 
<http://mod_wsgi-py39.cpython-39-x86_64-linux-gnu.so/>"
WSGIPythonHome "/opt/myenv"

What do you get for:

ls -las /usr/lib64/httpd/modules/mod_wsgi-py39.cpython-39-x86_64-linux-gnu.so 
<http://mod_wsgi-py39.cpython-39-x86_64-linux-gnu.so/>

Graham

> On 15 Jun 2021, at 10:36 am, Bob Bobsled <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Graham,
> re: f34, problem getting httpd to load the module via the 
> /etc/httpd/conf.modules.d directory which has a 10-mod_wsig.conf file place 
> there which says:
> 
> 5 <IfModule !wsgi_module>
> 6     LoadModule wsgi_module 
> modules/mod_wsgi_py39.cpython-39-x86_64-linux-gnu.so 
> <http://mod_wsgi_py39.cpython-39-x86_64-linux-gnu.so/>
> 7 </IfModule>
> 
> --What were the actual lines that the install-module command output?
> 
> (myenv) [root@localhost bin]# mod_wsgi-express install-module
> LoadModule wsgi_module 
> "/usr/lib64/httpd/modules/mod_wsgi-py39.cpython-39-x86_64-linux-gnu.so 
> <http://mod_wsgi-py39.cpython-39-x86_64-linux-gnu.so/>"
> WSGIPythonHome "/opt/myenv"
> 
> --Also, what are the exact messages that Apache outputs in the error log when 
> failing to load it?
> 
> [root@localhost conf.modules.d]# service httpd restart
> Job for httpd.service failed because the control process exited with error 
> code.
> See "systemctl status httpd.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details.
> 
> [root@localhost conf.modules.d]# systemctl status httpd.service
> httpd: Syntax error on line 59 of /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf: Syntax error on 
> line 6 of /etc/httpd/conf.modules.d/10-mod_wsgi.conf: Cannot load 
> modules/mod_wsgi_py39.cpython-39-x86_64-linux-gnu.so 
> <http://mod_wsgi_py39.cpython-39-x86_64-linux-gnu.so/>: cannot open shared 
> object file: No such file or directory
> 
> Thanks,
> Bob
> 
> On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 12:28 PM Graham Dumpleton <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> What were the actual lines that the install-module command output? It would 
> not have been written as that but should have used an absolute path I think, 
> plus may have had a WSGIPythonHome directive as well if mod_wsgi were 
> installed into a Python virtual environment.
> 
> Also, what are the exact messages that Apache outputs in the error log when 
> failing to load it?
> 
> Graham
> 
>> On 11 Jun 2021, at 5:22 am, Bob Bobsled <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Graham,
>> Unraveling the fedora httpd sub directories is actually not too bad. But the 
>> problem I'm having is getting httpd to load the module via the 
>> /etc/httpd/conf.modules.d directory which has a 10-mod_wsig.conf file place 
>> there which says:
>> 
>> <IfModule !wsgi_module>
>>      LoadModule wsgi_module 
>> modules/mod_wsgi_py39.cpython-39-x86_64-linux-gnu.so 
>> <http://mod_wsgi_py39.cpython-39-x86_64-linux-gnu.so/>
>> </IfModule>
>> 
>> httpd keeps saying it cannot load the module, however it is there because 
>> mod_wsgi-express copied it there.
>> 
>> I tried maybe finding a SONAME for the .so file, but there doesn't seem to 
>> be one, so I'm not sure what it's hung up on with the naming conventions.  I 
>> also set permissions consistent with the other modules.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Bob
>> 
>> On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 11:43 AM Graham Dumpleton <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> Not much I can do to help you with where you should put config when using 
>> system Apache of a specific operating system. CentOS/RHEL, Fedora and 
>> Debian/Ubuntu all set different requirements on where to place things and I 
>> am not familiar with how each does it. Unless someone else on the list can 
>> help with how Fedora does it, best I can suggest is you look at the Fedora 
>> documentation which I would hope explains it.
>> 
>> Graham
>> 
>>> On 10 Jun 2021, at 4:52 am, Bob Bobsled <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thank you Graham for your response.  Always helpful.
>>> 
>>> From my virtualenv I can run mod_wsgi-express start-server, and see malt 
>>> whiskey at localhost:8000.
>>> 
>>> My goal would be to just have the mod run when apache starts, so the box 
>>> can stay running, and folks can access the Django website when they need to 
>>> (although it's only for local access, and we're behind a firewall and only 
>>> using http).  
>>> 
>>> So I'm thinking the manually configured apache approach is what I need to 
>>> do.  I tried elevating to root and running mod_wsgi-express install-module:
>>> 
>>> (myenv) [root@localhost bin]# ./mod_wsgi-express install-module
>>> LoadModule wsgi_module 
>>> "/usr/lib64/httpd/modules/mod_wsgi-py39.cpython-39-x86_64-linux-gnu.so 
>>> <http://mod_wsgi-py39.cpython-39-x86_64-linux-gnu.so/>"
>>> 
>>> On fedora34, that copes the library to:
>>> /etc/httpd/modules
>>> 
>>> In fedora34 I have httpd directories (all under root ownership):
>>> /etc/httpd/conf
>>> /etc/httpd/conf.d
>>> /etc/httpd/conf.modules.d
>>> /etc/httpd/logs
>>> /etc/httpd/modules
>>> /etc/httpd/run
>>> /etc/httpd/state
>>> 
>>> I'm confused about where to place the config file(s) which contains the 
>>> httpd directives such as LoadModule wsgi_module, WSGIPythonHome, 
>>> WSGIDaemonProcess, etc. as well as directory permissions and any virtual 
>>> host setup.
>>> 
>>> On fedora34:
>>> /etc/httpd/conf/ contains the general httpd.conf file
>>> 
>>> /etc/httpd/conf.d  is for individual app config files?  ex. mod_dnssd.conf, 
>>> php.conf etc.
>>>      "The directory is used in addition to the directory 
>>> /etc/httpd/conf.modules.d/, which contains
>>>       configuration files necessary to load modules."
>>> 
>>> /etc/httpd/conf.modules.d  is for two-digit, numbered .conf files, ex. 
>>> 10-mod_dnssd.conf, etc.
>>>      "This directory contains configuration fragments necessary only to 
>>> load modules.
>>>       Administrators should use the directory "/etc/httpd/conf.d" to modify
>>>       the configuration of httpd, or any modules."
>>> 
>>> vhosts seems to be in a weird place on Fedora (also under root ownership):
>>> /usr/share/doc/httpd/httpd-vhosts.conf
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Bob
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Jun 8, 2021 at 12:47 PM Graham Dumpleton 
>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> If the intent is to use mod_wsgi-express to host the application, you don't 
>>> need to install the module into the system wide Apache using 
>>> "install-module".
>>> 
>>> One you have run pip install, run:
>>> 
>>>     mod_wsgi-express start-server
>>> 
>>> and verify it starts. Then use mod_wsgi-start start-server with your 
>>> application as explained in:
>>> 
>>> http://blog.dscpl.com.au/2015/04/introducing-modwsgi-express.html 
>>> <http://blog.dscpl.com.au/2015/04/introducing-modwsgi-express.html>
>>> http://blog.dscpl.com.au/2015/04/integrating-modwsgi-express-as-django.html 
>>> <http://blog.dscpl.com.au/2015/04/integrating-modwsgi-express-as-django.html>
>>> http://blog.dscpl.com.au/2015/05/using-modwsgi-express-as-development.html 
>>> <http://blog.dscpl.com.au/2015/05/using-modwsgi-express-as-development.html>
>>> 
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPz0s1CQsTE&t=7s 
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPz0s1CQsTE&t=7s>
>>> 
>>> If you really want to go the way of manually configuring the system Apache 
>>> for mod_wsgi instead, the "install-module" command will only work if done 
>>> as root, so you need to use "sudo" to run it.
>>> 
>>> Graham
>>> 
>>>> On 9 Jun 2021, at 5:20 am, Bob Bobsled <[email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Graham,
>>>> 
>>>> OK. I did that. (I was hoping to avoid virtualenv, since django is the 
>>>> only main python app I'm using on that fedora box, but glad to set one up 
>>>> if that helps).  
>>>> I do have a conflict with the django port for another web app, however.  A 
>>>> couple years ago you helped me thru a django setup on a windows box using 
>>>> wamp,
>>>> where you suggested nip.io <http://nip.io/> for the conflict problem.  
>>>> That seemed to work okay, but I haven't been able to get it worked out on 
>>>> the fedora box yet because
>>>> still struggling with mod_wsgi part.
>>>> 
>>>> From the activated virtualenv the mod_wsgi-express install-module command 
>>>> is still giving me a permission error on /usr/lib64...
>>>> 
>>>> On fedora I have one user, refstudent who is admin.  My /opt directory and 
>>>> contents are all under the refstudent user and group and chmod 777 
>>>> permission
>>>> on /opt and all contents.   /home is under root, but /home/refstudent is 
>>>> under refstudent user and group with 777 permission on all contents.
>>>> Everything else on the box is under root.  My django website is in 
>>>> /var/www/html/mysite.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> (myenv) [refstudent@localhost myenv]$ mod_wsgi-express install-module
>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>   File "/opt/myenv/bin/mod_wsgi-express", line 33, in <module>
>>>>     sys.exit(load_entry_point('mod-wsgi==4.8.0', 'console_scripts', 
>>>> 'mod_wsgi-express')())
>>>>   File 
>>>> "/opt/myenv/lib64/python3.9/site-packages/mod_wsgi/server/__init__.py", 
>>>> line 3830, in main
>>>>     cmd_install_module(args)
>>>>   File 
>>>> "/opt/myenv/lib64/python3.9/site-packages/mod_wsgi/server/__init__.py", 
>>>> line 3766, in cmd_install_module
>>>>     shutil.copyfile(where(), target)
>>>>   File "/usr/lib64/python3.9/shutil.py", line 264, in copyfile
>>>>     with open(src, 'rb') as fsrc, open(dst, 'wb') as fdst:
>>>> PermissionError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: 
>>>> '/usr/lib64/httpd/modules/mod_wsgi-py39.cpython-39-x86_64-linux-gnu.so 
>>>> <http://mod_wsgi-py39.cpython-39-x86_64-linux-gnu.so/>'
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Bob
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Jun 7, 2021 at 3:01 PM Graham Dumpleton 
>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>> You seem to have multiple installs conflicting with each other. Would 
>>>> suggest ensuring you uninstall all the mod_wsgi versions installed in 
>>>> different ways.
>>>> 
>>>> Once that is done, create a Python virtual environment instead, activate 
>>>> it and pip install mod_wsgi into that. Don't install into system Python or 
>>>> per user Python.
>>>> 
>>>> When have cleaned up and removed existing installs and tried the virtual 
>>>> environment method come back and indicate what problem you have at that 
>>>> point.
>>>> 
>>>> Graham
>>>> 
>>>>> On 8 Jun 2021, at 10:57 am, Bob Bobsled <[email protected] 
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello Graham,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have tried unsuccessfully to get mod-wsgi working for Django, and httpd 
>>>>> on fedora34.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I tried the CMMI method first, downloading/configuring/make/install, but 
>>>>> the instructions give out at the point of knowing what to do after 
>>>>> getting the module into etc/httpd/modules.  I'm stuck figuring out how to 
>>>>> continue with where to place a .config file and how to fiddle with vhosts 
>>>>> etc.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So I moved on to dnf install python3-mod_wsgi, but that seems to be an 
>>>>> older version and doesn't have the niceties of mod_wsgi-express.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Then I tried, as root, pip3 install mod_wsgi, but that seems to bugger 
>>>>> the permissions.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Fourth try was as user pip3 install --user mod_wsgi but it seems to put 
>>>>> everything in odd places.
>>>>> For ex. mod_wsgi-express winds up in .local/bin, instead of usr/bin, but 
>>>>> nevertheless when I run it from .loca/bin with the install-module 
>>>>> directive I get permission denied on 
>>>>> /usr/lib64/modules/mod_wsgi-py39.cpython-39-x86_64-linux-gnu.so 
>>>>> <http://mod_wsgi-py39.cpython-39-x86_64-linux-gnu.so/>
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'd be really grateful for some advice on the best way to get it working 
>>>>> in fedora34.  I'm glad to try anyway you might suggest.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Bob
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