Hi Graham,
re: f34, problem getting httpd to load the module via the
/etc/httpd/conf.modules.d directory which has a 10-mod_wsig.conf file place
there which says:

5 <IfModule !wsgi_module>
6     LoadModule wsgi_module modules/
mod_wsgi_py39.cpython-39-x86_64-linux-gnu.so
7 </IfModule>

--What were the actual lines that the install-module command output?

*(myenv) [root@localhost bin]# mod_wsgi-express install-module*
LoadModule wsgi_module "/usr/lib64/httpd/modules/
mod_wsgi-py39.cpython-39-x86_64-linux-gnu.so"
WSGIPythonHome "/opt/myenv"

--Also, what are the exact messages that Apache outputs in the error log
when failing to load it?

*[root@localhost conf.modules.d]# service httpd restart*
Job for httpd.service failed because the control process exited with error
code.
See "systemctl status httpd.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details.

*[root@localhost conf.modules.d]# systemctl status httpd.service*
httpd: Syntax error on line 59 of /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf: Syntax error
on line 6 of /etc/httpd/conf.modules.d/10-mod_wsgi.conf: Cannot load
modules/mod_wsgi_py39.cpython-39-x86_64-linux-gnu.so: cannot open shared
object file: No such file or directory

Thanks,
Bob

On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 12:28 PM Graham Dumpleton <
[email protected]> wrote:

> What were the actual lines that the install-module command output? It
> would not have been written as that but should have used an absolute path I
> think, plus may have had a WSGIPythonHome directive as well if mod_wsgi
> were installed into a Python virtual environment.
>
> Also, what are the exact messages that Apache outputs in the error log
> when failing to load it?
>
> Graham
>
> On 11 Jun 2021, at 5:22 am, Bob Bobsled <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi Graham,
> Unraveling the fedora httpd sub directories is actually not too bad. But
> the problem I'm having is getting httpd to load the module via the
> /etc/httpd/conf.modules.d directory which has a 10-mod_wsig.conf file place
> there which says:
>
> <IfModule !wsgi_module>
>      LoadModule wsgi_module modules/
> mod_wsgi_py39.cpython-39-x86_64-linux-gnu.so
> </IfModule>
>
> httpd keeps saying it cannot load the module, however it is there because
> mod_wsgi-express copied it there.
>
> I tried maybe finding a SONAME for the .so file, but there doesn't seem to
> be one, so I'm not sure what it's hung up on with the naming conventions.
> I also set permissions consistent with the other modules.
>
> Regards,
> Bob
>
> On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 11:43 AM Graham Dumpleton <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Not much I can do to help you with where you should put config when using
>> system Apache of a specific operating system. CentOS/RHEL, Fedora and
>> Debian/Ubuntu all set different requirements on where to place things and I
>> am not familiar with how each does it. Unless someone else on the list can
>> help with how Fedora does it, best I can suggest is you look at the Fedora
>> documentation which I would hope explains it.
>>
>> Graham
>>
>> On 10 Jun 2021, at 4:52 am, Bob Bobsled <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Thank you Graham for your response.  Always helpful.
>>
>> From my virtualenv I can run mod_wsgi-express start-server, and see malt
>> whiskey at localhost:8000.
>>
>> My goal would be to just have the mod run when apache starts, so the box
>> can stay running, and folks can access the Django website when they need to
>> (although it's only for local access, and we're behind a firewall and only
>> using http).
>>
>> So I'm thinking the manually configured apache approach is what I need to
>> do.  I tried elevating to root and running mod_wsgi-express install-module:
>>
>> (myenv) [root@localhost bin]# ./mod_wsgi-express install-module
>> LoadModule wsgi_module "/usr/lib64/httpd/modules/
>> mod_wsgi-py39.cpython-39-x86_64-linux-gnu.so"
>>
>> On fedora34, that copes the library to:
>> /etc/httpd/modules
>>
>> In fedora34 I have httpd directories (all under root ownership):
>> /etc/httpd/conf
>> /etc/httpd/conf.d
>> /etc/httpd/conf.modules.d
>> /etc/httpd/logs
>> /etc/httpd/modules
>> /etc/httpd/run
>> /etc/httpd/state
>>
>> I'm confused about where to place the config file(s) which contains the
>> httpd directives such as LoadModule wsgi_module, WSGIPythonHome,
>> WSGIDaemonProcess, etc. as well as directory permissions and any virtual
>> host setup.
>>
>> On fedora34:
>> /etc/httpd/conf/ contains the general httpd.conf file
>>
>> /etc/httpd/conf.d  is for individual app config files?  ex.
>> mod_dnssd.conf, php.conf etc.
>>      "The directory is used in addition to the directory
>> /etc/httpd/conf.modules.d/, which contains
>>       configuration files necessary to load modules."
>>
>> /etc/httpd/conf.modules.d  is for two-digit, numbered .conf files, ex.
>> 10-mod_dnssd.conf, etc.
>>      "This directory contains configuration fragments necessary only to
>> load modules.
>>       Administrators should use the directory "/etc/httpd/conf.d" to
>> modify
>>       the configuration of httpd, or any modules."
>>
>> vhosts seems to be in a weird place on Fedora (also under root ownership):
>> /usr/share/doc/httpd/httpd-vhosts.conf
>>
>> Regards,
>> Bob
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 8, 2021 at 12:47 PM Graham Dumpleton <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> If the intent is to use mod_wsgi-express to host the application, you
>>> don't need to install the module into the system wide Apache using
>>> "install-module".
>>>
>>> One you have run pip install, run:
>>>
>>>     mod_wsgi-express start-server
>>>
>>> and verify it starts. Then use mod_wsgi-start start-server with your
>>> application as explained in:
>>>
>>> http://blog.dscpl.com.au/2015/04/introducing-modwsgi-express.html
>>>
>>> http://blog.dscpl.com.au/2015/04/integrating-modwsgi-express-as-django.html
>>>
>>> http://blog.dscpl.com.au/2015/05/using-modwsgi-express-as-development.html
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPz0s1CQsTE&t=7s
>>>
>>> If you really want to go the way of manually configuring the system
>>> Apache for mod_wsgi instead, the "install-module" command will only work if
>>> done as root, so you need to use "sudo" to run it.
>>>
>>> Graham
>>>
>>> On 9 Jun 2021, at 5:20 am, Bob Bobsled <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Graham,
>>>
>>> OK. I did that. (I was hoping to avoid virtualenv, since django is the
>>> only main python app I'm using on that fedora box, but glad to set one up
>>> if that helps).
>>> I do have a conflict with the django port for another web app, however.
>>> A couple years ago you helped me thru a django setup on a windows box using
>>> wamp,
>>> where you suggested nip.io for the conflict problem.  That seemed to
>>> work okay, but I haven't been able to get it worked out on the fedora box
>>> yet because
>>> still struggling with mod_wsgi part.
>>>
>>> From the activated virtualenv the mod_wsgi-express install-module
>>> command is still giving me a permission error on /usr/lib64...
>>>
>>> On fedora I have one user, refstudent who is admin.  My /opt directory
>>> and contents are all under the refstudent user and group and chmod 777
>>> permission
>>> on /opt and all contents.   /home is under root, but /home/refstudent is
>>> under refstudent user and group with 777 permission on all contents.
>>> Everything else on the box is under root.  My django website is in
>>> /var/www/html/mysite.
>>>
>>>
>>> (myenv) [refstudent@localhost myenv]$ mod_wsgi-express install-module
>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>   File "/opt/myenv/bin/mod_wsgi-express", line 33, in <module>
>>>     sys.exit(load_entry_point('mod-wsgi==4.8.0', 'console_scripts',
>>> 'mod_wsgi-express')())
>>>   File
>>> "/opt/myenv/lib64/python3.9/site-packages/mod_wsgi/server/__init__.py",
>>> line 3830, in main
>>>     cmd_install_module(args)
>>>   File
>>> "/opt/myenv/lib64/python3.9/site-packages/mod_wsgi/server/__init__.py",
>>> line 3766, in cmd_install_module
>>>     shutil.copyfile(where(), target)
>>>   File "/usr/lib64/python3.9/shutil.py", line 264, in copyfile
>>>     with open(src, 'rb') as fsrc, open(dst, 'wb') as fdst:
>>> PermissionError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/usr/lib64/httpd/modules/
>>> mod_wsgi-py39.cpython-39-x86_64-linux-gnu.so'
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Bob
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 7, 2021 at 3:01 PM Graham Dumpleton <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You seem to have multiple installs conflicting with each other. Would
>>>> suggest ensuring you uninstall all the mod_wsgi versions installed in
>>>> different ways.
>>>>
>>>> Once that is done, create a Python virtual environment instead,
>>>> activate it and pip install mod_wsgi into that. Don't install into system
>>>> Python or per user Python.
>>>>
>>>> When have cleaned up and removed existing installs and tried the
>>>> virtual environment method come back and indicate what problem you have at
>>>> that point.
>>>>
>>>> Graham
>>>>
>>>> On 8 Jun 2021, at 10:57 am, Bob Bobsled <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello Graham,
>>>>
>>>> I have tried unsuccessfully to get mod-wsgi working for Django, and
>>>> httpd on fedora34.
>>>>
>>>> I tried the CMMI method first, downloading/configuring/make/install,
>>>> but the instructions give out at the point of knowing what to do after
>>>> getting the module into etc/httpd/modules.  I'm stuck figuring out how to
>>>> continue with where to place a .config file and how to fiddle with vhosts
>>>> etc.
>>>>
>>>> So I moved on to dnf install python3-mod_wsgi, but that seems to be an
>>>> older version and doesn't have the niceties of mod_wsgi-express.
>>>>
>>>> Then I tried, as root, pip3 install mod_wsgi, but that seems to bugger
>>>> the permissions.
>>>>
>>>> Fourth try was as user pip3 install --user mod_wsgi but it seems to put
>>>> everything in odd places.
>>>> For ex. mod_wsgi-express winds up in .local/bin, instead of usr/bin,
>>>> but nevertheless when I run it from .loca/bin with the install-module
>>>> directive I get permission denied on /usr/lib64/modules/
>>>> mod_wsgi-py39.cpython-39-x86_64-linux-gnu.so
>>>>
>>>> I'd be really grateful for some advice on the best way to get it
>>>> working in fedora34.  I'm glad to try anyway you might suggest.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Bob
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