Andy

That's a good point and one I should check - all my gauges drop around 10% when 
I turn on the headlights…

Mike H
Wantage

 
On 7 Jun 2012, at 18:45, Andy Garlick wrote:

> Richard,
> I am pleased that you have achieved a good result, in an economical way. 
> 
> Is yours a Serpentine belt Rover engine? If it is then oil pressure of 2.2 
> Bar seems a little on the low side. I agree that is more about flow than 
> pressure (which is possibly why cooling it is giving you the results) , but 
> the later serpentine engines deliver about 2 Bar at idle and 3.5 to 4.0 Bar 
> running at over 2,000 rpm. The gauge no longer measure actual pressure , but 
> an electrical reading from a pressure sensor, so it is sensitive to all the 
> electrical contacts being clean. You might want to look at that.
> 
> Kind regards
> 
> Andy 
> 
> From: Richard Jones <[email protected]>
> To: mogtalk2 <[email protected]> 
> Sent: Thursday, 7 June 2012, 15:57
> Subject: Re: [mogtalk2] Nose Job
> 
> Hi Andy
> I am very happy with whatI have done and it was my choice, nothing to do with 
> Keith.
> My water temperatures and I can confirm as I am in France at the moment and 
> have done some long high speed runs are 10-20 degrees lower and never top 100 
> degrees now. I could easily run 110 - !20 water temp before in 25-35 degrees 
> air temp, but with no water loss, so it never particularly concerned me so 
> it's all relative to what your gauge is showing . BUT I  have always believed 
> if you look after your oil it's good for you motor. My pressure is never 
> high, but in a Rover V8 its more about flow than ultimate pressure and I run 
> a constant 2 - 2.2 bar at any speed regardless (again all relative to your 
> gauge)  
> Yes I will invest in a £600 rad one day when I need a replacement, but in the 
> meantime £160 on an oil rad and fittings is well spent
> Richard M800RGN+8
> 
> From: Andy Garlick <[email protected]>
> To: mogtalk2 <[email protected]> 
> Sent: Saturday, 2 June 2012, 9:58
> Subject: Re: [mogtalk2] Nose Job
> 
> Richard 
> I am slightly puzzled by this , if you want to cool the water invest in a 
> bigger radiator , if you want to cool the oil invest in an oil cooler. You 
> seem to have invested in an oil cooler to help you cool the water, which is 
> not logical (to me anyway). However I do respect Keith's judgement and he 
> must have learned something about this from another car possibly.
> 
> My +8 has the crossover Librands exhausts under the sump and I don't think I 
> need an oil cooler.  I do however have a larger alloy radiator which keeps my 
> water temperature in between the thermostat opening temperature of 85 Deg C 
> and 98 Deg when the fan cuts in. My fan only cuts in when in heavy traffic or 
> when I am stationary, whenever I can move at a reasonable speed I have no 
> water cooling issues. 
> 
> You may like the look of the cooler under the nose , but I don't think it is 
> necessary.
> 
> Modern oils are designed to run very hot , and overcooling them causes more 
> issues generally than overheating them. 
> 
> If you have gained an improvement that is fine, but I suspect you would have 
> been equally pleased , if not more so, by going for the alloy radiator.
> 
> Andy 
> 
> From: Richard Jones <[email protected]>
> To: mogtalk2 <[email protected]> 
> Sent: Wednesday, 30 May 2012, 19:35
> Subject: [mogtalk2] Nose Job
> 
> Having had her backside tightened up by Doctor Keith at BHM last month , 
> M800RGN decided she would like a new nose job before she goes on holiday next 
> week to France and hits the boulevards; she went for this stainless steel job 
> with a 13 row Mocal cooler behind. Haven't done any motorway work yet, but I 
> seem to be running 10-15* cooler and am running an indicated 85-95* in mixed 
> driving - spirited and traffic and only minimal fan cutting in in stationary 
> traffic now. I always displayed an indicated 100-120 in hot-very hot weather 
> depending on driving style - never ever lost any coolant though. Will stave 
> off the ally rad for a bit methinks, but will eventually give in.
>  
> Richard M800RGN+8
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