David, did you ever get management approval on that?  I've gotten
management approval to build a web-based configuration tool for Mon and
rerelease it back to the world, but I don't want to duplicate effort if
you've already gotten part of it done.

On Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 10:45:00AM -0500, David Nolan wrote:
> 
> 
> --On Wednesday, December 05, 2001 12:54 PM -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:
> 
> > A while back, I started to write a Perl/Tk configuration tool for mon. I'm
> > a really lousy gui designer, and I found a couple of new bugs in Perl/Tk
> > (since fixed), but the really hard part of the project was having to rip
> > the parser for the config file out of mon and try to keep up with new mon
> > releases. I think it would be valuable to have gui or web-based
> > configuration tools for mon (perhaps a webmin module?); I'm finding a
> > large config file a bit difficult to maintain, even with m4, and I'd like
> > to let other less unix-aware people have some sort of controlled access
> > to it. The only way I can see to make this easy would be if the mon
> > config file parser were broken out into its own perl module. I don't
> > think this would be too difficult, since it mainly involves encapsulating
> > code that's already there.
> >
> > Having a Mon::Config module would also make it possible (not easy!) to
> > optionally use something other than a flat file for the configuration,
> > e.g. a database. The advantage of this would be to use database user
> > access to restrict parts of the configuration.
> >
> 
> Assuming I can get management approval, we're going to be starting a 
> project ASAP to replace our current monitoring infrastructure with a system 
> based on mon & cricket.  The largest component of the work in our design so 
> far is going to be implementing a monitoring system configuration database, 
> which will address the needs you point out above.  The goal is to have a 
> database representation of all the data in the mon config file, and a web 
> interface to allow our admins to update the configuration.  There will be 
> access controls, so operations/help center people can see what is 
> monitored, but not change things, and sysadmins will get control of what is 
> monitored, and periods for when people get paged vs. when email is sent, 
> etc, and monitoring admins will be able to control things like system wide 
> defaults (i.e. default 'alertevery' of 30m, but individual entries could 
> override).  It will support a 'tree' of mon's, with a central mon host 
> responsible for sending alerts, and slave mon hosts responsible for all the 
> monitoring, but with all the configuration generated from one system.  And 
> we may try to make it NOT be mon specific, possibly with XML based output 
> that we would post process to create the mon.cfg.
> 
> With a network of thousands of devices and hundreds of servers, a good 
> interface that empowers all the staff to update the system themselves 
> without having to understand the intricacies of mon.cfg is essential.  Even 
> better is automating device detection, and integrating host/service 
> monitoring in with established system management procedures, which are also 
> parts of our design, but those parts may not be as easy to keep separate 
> from our in-house systems.
> 
> This is all a dream for now... but if I get management approval soon, we'll 
> be starting work on this within the next few weeks.  We do intend to 
> release the end result.
> 
> 
> -David Nolan
>  Network Software Developer
>  Computing Services
>  Carnegie Mellon University

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