Totally agree with @daniel except that I am not agree the part where said we not thanks/appreciate Ubuntu team. I don't know about the rest of the world but for me and the people that I introduce to /talk with them about Ubuntu they all appreciate the great afford and policing put into get this excellent distro for us.
Perhap using Window & develop in .NET Framework with just click and get thing work make me junior coder a lazy labor. However to abandon Windows camp and join Linux my option is to pick popular Linux distro and can do my job on it that how I feel having mono ready and up to date on the Ubuntu (official support :D) would be a big plus. Build one run every where ! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Chorn Sokun +855 12 222718 http://chornsokun.wordpress.com http://twitter.com/csokun On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 12:58 PM, daniel <[email protected]> wrote: > The ubuntu devs package and deploy for their release which happens every > 6 months. it is insane to say its up to them to package version released > between OS versions. > > Ubuntu comes with a packaged version on gnome do, which is fine, however > I choose to use a more recent version of gnome do so I use a PPA which > is supplied by the developers (not the ubuntu devs) > > The fact that ubuntu/devian developers package mono for you for its OS > releases is a bonus, did Microsoft package up mono and include it in > its Windows 7? NO! did Apple package up mono and include it in snow > leopard? no. So ubuntu is helping you guys out hugely but do you thank > them? no, you just expect more of them. > > I also use Chrome in ubuntu. Its not in the repros at all, when I wanted > to install chrome did google say... O sorry its up to ubuntu/debian to > package chrome for you, its not our fault if they don't. No, they > packaged it themselves and even provided different channels so I can > decide exactly how cutting edge I want to be. > > So you have to worry about a newer version breaking existing > applications, how is this different from on any other operating system? > > It's not up to the ubuntu devs to package new versions of mono for exist > OS releases, its up to the mono project to do this and provide it as a PPA. > > The question you need to ask is, how important is the largest desktop > linux distribution to the mono project. > > At my work we started to port a .net application to mono, however it > need to run on ubuntu (8.04) do you know what version of mono is in > 8.04 its 1.2.6, everything for our app was supported in mono 2.4 but > mono 1.2.6? not even close. So we abandoned our efforts, I'm sure their > are lots of other people out there with similar stories. Those of us who > use ubuntu feel a little bit like second class citizens. > > > > B.R. wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 8:42 PM, Bálint Kardos <[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Stephen, > > > > Fact 1: the provider decides on the virtualized platforms, not me. > > They have Fedora, Ubuntu or Debian systems ready. > > > > Fact 2: I've used Debian and Fedora for a decade, so I'm more > > familiar with Ubuntu as with SuSe. > > > > Fact 3: I've started working on merging all my sites/servers back > > to Windows 2008. > > It is a sad story, but the lack of real features on mono (Web > > Services still has bugs for years, the LINQ implementation is a > > horror etc.) makes it more and more hard to use it as a real > > Production (not a toy playground) platform. > > > > > > üdvözlettel > > with regards > > > > Kardos Bálint > > _______________________________________ > > http://skaelede.hu 10 (0xA) év a magyar weben > > > > > > If there are web services bugs, file bugs--if nobody knows about them, > > they can't get fixed. Also, clarify what you mean by LINQ? LINQ to > > Objects is pretty simple and there's only so many ways to implement > > that, so I'm not sure how you can lay claim to that being a horror. > > LINQ to SQL is a different story, and a huge effort that is only now > > beginning to be integrated into Mono properly. You could also file > > bugs for those--once again, if nobody knows about them, they can't get > > fixed. > > > > --B.R. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mono-list maillist - [email protected] > > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mono-list maillist - [email protected] > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list >
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