Thanks Natalia.
Couple of questions
1. After installing the beta, is SDK 4.3 option to build against available in
MonoDevelop?
2. If I am not using XIBs, then XCode 4.2 should not be an issue. Correct?
Thx,
Ash
On June 7, 2011 at 4:43 PM Natalia Portillo <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Hi all,
>
> I have upgraded my iPhone 4 and iPad to iOS 5
>
> http://girlyngeek.blogspot.com/2011/06/first-ios-5-impressions-beta-1.html for
> some new features not said in any docs.
>
> My two MonoTouch applications are working flawlessly.
>
> I think this testing is a requirement because iOS 5 will be out in a month or
> two and we need to know what fails (if anything)
>
> Of course, installing iOS 5 requires you to have iTunes 10.5 and Xcode 4.2.
> Don't do that in the machine you're using for development and deployment of
> MonoTouch apps!!!
>
> If ANY of you are too afraid to do that themselves, or don't have enough
> machines free, I'll do free testing for you, just send me
> a code for your apps.
>
> I really want Xamarin to finish their "XT" as I want to use the new Twitter
> APIs ASAP.
>
> El 07/06/2011, a las 08:48, Nic Wise escribió:
>
> >> I'll be taking your advice and not upgrading. Its good to know I will still
> >> be able to deploy a version of my app built against 4.3 to the app store
> >> even when 5 goes GM (Did i understand that correctly?!)
> >>
> >
> > Assuming you havn't broken anything, yes.
> >
> >> Lastly, as virtually all members of this group are relying on xamarin for
> >> some info at the minute, perhaps someone who has a better understanding
> >> (than me) of how monotouch works at a lower level could answer this...
> >>
> >> How long do you guys think the task xamarin has taken on would take to
> >> complete? Is it just a case of running the iOS sdk though an automated
> >> tool,
> >> and then just csharpafying (a new word?!) all the little bits and peices
> >> (changing arrays to generic lists, etc...)
> >
> > There is the backend stuff as well - activation servers, plugins for
> > MD, btouch etc. Most of the work, AFAIK, is the headers -> .cs stuff.
> > I think Miguel's estimation of 3 months sounds about right, being they
> > are bootstrapping a company at the same time.
> >
> >> Would it be another 3 or 4 months, or closer to 8 - 12 months? I know its a
> >> wild guess, and im sure they have other things to delay them (setting up
> >> business, legal issues...), but just from a coding point of view.
> >>
> >
> > Last one took (I think!) 6 months with 4 people. They have a lot more
> > people now, and all of the people have done it before, so I'd expect
> > it to take a lot less. Look at MonoMac - that took about 4 months to
> > do most of the Mac API's with (talented) volunteers.
> >
> >> Like everyone here im just treading water here, unsure of the future of
> >> this. Still, if xamarin get this out soon, before the monotouch community
> >> dies, it will mean a much more solid future for C# on the iPhone.
> >>
> >
> > At a guess, I'd expect something around August (3-4 months). But I
> > have ZERO inside knowledge. I'd love to see it earlier, but thats the
> > latest I'm hoping it'll happen. Atleast before iOS 5 drops anyway!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> Thanks in advance!
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Nic Wise <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I'd suggest that you dont. For a few reasons.
> >>>
> >>> First, if we were in the situation we were in before Attachmate dumped
> >>> the project and team, I'd expect a beta of MT within 48 hours. But the
> >>> chances of that are zero now, IMO. I'd expect Xamarin to do it once XT
> >>> (XamarinTouch!) is up and running, but I suspect thats a while away
> >>> (Miguel, if you are watching, can we get an update? Anything? Even
> >>> just "yup, we are alive....")
> >>>
> >>> So if you install the SDK, expect MT not to work, and expect no way to
> >>> fix it without removing the SDK and reinstalling in the 4.3 one.
> >>>
> >>> Also, if you install the 5.0 SDK, and build against it, you can't
> >>> submit anything to the appstore until it's all RTM. They will reject
> >>> it outright (same goes for Obj-C, tho you can install both in
> >>> parallel, not sure how)
> >>>
> >>> As for the device, upgrading should be fine. You can build a 4.3
> >>> binary (as you do now) and deploy it to a 5.x phone, no problem (based
> >>> on past experience). HOWEVER, if the past is anything to go by, Beta 1
> >>> will be unstable and buggy, and you have no way to go back to 4.x if
> >>> you need to. So either do it on a test device, or be prepared to have
> >>> a somewhat broken phone for a while. If it's due to drop in October,
> >>> I'd start using the betas around 1 Sept.
> >>>
> >>> For example, the 4.3 betas nuked battery life in B1 and B2, tho the
> >>> later ones were ok (I _needed_ tethering, so I had to upgrade)
> >>>
> >>> The exception to that is if you need to support iOS 5 stuff - iCloud
> >>> for eg. Then you need to weigh up not being able to deploy vrs getting
> >>> new stuff done. Also keep in mind that you'll need to do the btouch
> >>> bindings yourself, 'cos there aren't any bindings for iOS5 (again,
> >>> thanks to Attachmate)....
> >>>
> >>> Personally, if I had to do iCloud stuff, I'd be doing it in ObjC for
> >>> the moment. Any stuff you learn will translate back to XamTouch
> >>> easily, an you get to use the new stuff right now. You can't deploy it
> >>> anywhere except your own device until October ("fall") regardless of
> >>> what or how you do it.
> >>>
> >>> Being I have production apps to support, I'm going to most likely
> >>> install iOS5 SDK on another mac (I have a macmini as a media center),
> >>> if at all, and just read the docs. I'm going to eave my macbook pro as
> >>> is (including NOT upgrading to Lion), as if it stops working, I stop
> >>> working. It's bad enough that debugging keeps breaking in MD..... and
> >>> then stops breaking. And starts again.... <sigh>
> >>>
> >>> As soon as XT is out and stable, I'll move to that and upgrade everything
> >>> else.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 01:53, Dermot O Sullivan <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>> Or someone who's already tried it and can report back maybe?
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 10:44 AM, Karl Heinz Brehme Arredondo
> >>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This I think just God can answer, on a virgin dreams or tibetan monk in
> >>>>> deep meditation. Or a magic monkey with 3 heads or a magic Ximian with
> >>>>> 3
> >>>>> heads, something like that. I lost the voodoo script to get ingredients
> >>>>> and
> >>>>> compile this spell.
> >>>>> Karl
> >>>>> From: Dermot O Sullivan <[email protected]>
> >>>>> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 10:21:42 +1000
> >>>>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> >>>>> Subject: [MonoTouch] Should I Update to IOS5?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If I upgrade my phone to iOS5 beta today, will I still be able to
> >>>>> run/debug my monotouch apps? which currently support ios4
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> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Nic Wise
> >>> t. +44 7788 592 806 | @fastchicken | http://www.linkedin.com/in/nicwise
> >>> b. http://www.fastchicken.co.nz/ | http://www.flickr.com/photos/nicwise
> >>>
> >>> mobileAgent (for FreeAgent): get your accounts in your pocket.
> >>> http://goo.gl/IuBU
> >>> Trip Wallet: Keep track of your budget on the go: http://goo.gl/ePhKa
> >>> London Bike App: Find the nearest Boris Bike, and get riding!
> >>> http://goo.gl/Icp2
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Nic Wise
> > t. +44 7788 592 806 | @fastchicken | http://www.linkedin.com/in/nicwise
> > b. http://www.fastchicken.co.nz/ | http://www.flickr.com/photos/nicwise
> >
> > mobileAgent (for FreeAgent): get your accounts in your pocket.
> > http://goo.gl/IuBU
> > Trip Wallet: Keep track of your budget on the go: http://goo.gl/ePhKa
> > London Bike App: Find the nearest Boris Bike, and get riding!
> > http://goo.gl/Icp2
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