I've had this argument MANY MANY times.

We say we can't upgrade IE6 because of this 20-30% of people who can't
won't/don't know.

But we *WILL* tell flash users they need to upgrade - and then wonder why
95% of Flash users are all using the most recent version.

We don't want to tell people "best viewed in" but people in IE6 should be
given a banner/message at the top of the site that basically explains
reasons why they should upgrade.

Or someone needs to write a global virus that targets IE6 and does nothing
but check if they can upgrade to IE7 and forwards them to the windows update
page.

Just sayin'

-keif


anutron wrote:
> 
> Ivan, there are a LOT of reasons that IE6 is in use and why we, web
> developers can't do much about it. For starters, there are a lot of old
> computers out there, esp in developing countries. Go spend some time in
> S.E.
> Asia and walk into an internet cafe. Who's going to up grade that browser?
> There are a lot of schools running donated machinery and their main
> objective is to just keep them running, not add the latest bloatware from
> MSFT or install some 3rd party browser. The same goes for small libraries.
> You and I might wish IE6 a fast death, but the only people who can do
> anything about it are MSFT and users. If you aren't building a site for
> wide
> use, you can turn your back on it. But if you're working for a business
> that
> needs web traffic, you just can't afford to be picky.
> 
> C'est la vie.
> 
> -aaron
> 
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 12:50 PM, Iván N Paz <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
> 
>> Yes... its being used BECAUSE, we still support it... because we do
>> not join the cause to stop its usage.... what Im doing here is making
>> a "call to arms", join the fight, and FORCE people to upgrade... when
>> we FORCE the final user to upgrade, they will force their admins to
>> let them do it... we can do it not only by encouraging them to switch
>> browser, but to al LEAST upgrade IE..... its worth the try...
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 2:05 PM, MX3 Design
>> <[EMAIL 
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>> wrote:
>> >
>> > A nice thought Ivan but...
>> > September 2008 IE6 browser stats:
>> >
>> > w3c = 22.3%
>> > thecounter.com = 36%
>> >
>> > it's still being used a lot.
>> >
>> >
>> > 2008/10/16 Iván N Paz
>> <[EMAIL 
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>>
>> >>
>> >> IE6 MUST DIE...
>> >>
>> >> Really guys... IE6 support has to DIE right now... personally I'm
>> >> considering not implementing a single hack to support it any
>> >> longer....
>> >>
>> >> We, the developers and designers, have to end that NOW.....
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
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