csuwildcat (or would you prefer we call you daniel?), I don't think this is
quite the right attitude to take about jQuery. jQuery has done something
that no one else has: they've made interactive sites something that the
masses can now produce, and that makes the web better. We all borrow and
steal from each other - there's jQuery in MooTools
($$('a').addEvent('click', fn).setStyles(...).inject(...), etc). and
Prototype in MooTools, and lots of other stuff. So arguing that they are
ripping people off is missing the point (and, btw, I don't think they are).
jQuery makes it possible for non-programmers to get interested in JavaScript
and to make their sites more interesting, and that's a good thing.
If you remember learning your first programming language no doubt you'll
recall what a fun and eye-opening experience it was. You probably don't
still use that language today, but even if you do, you've grown and learned
good practices by now. jQuery is the gateway language for a lot of people.
I'm happy to see so many people playing with JavaScript. It makes our world
more interesting, if you ask me.At some point, people who come to jQuery who are interested in JavaScript as a language will go beyond it. They may find MooTools, or Dojo, or Prototype, or write their own framework. But for many, jQuery will be the reason they got here in the first place. I do not begrudge them their popularity. In a way, they are doing work that we have chosen not to: they are exposing newbs to the power of client side development, which is something that the MooTools community has never attempted to do and generally suffers through when we have to. On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 9:09 AM, csuwldcat <[email protected]> wrote: > > I am seeing more and more that graphic designers and newbies to > javascript are moving in droves to jQuery. What is distressing is > that they all see some jPlugin that another library user originally > made (most likely some Prototype or Mootools one from way back) and > think it is jQuery the library hard at work "innovating on the client- > side", laughable at best. Makes me wonder if the crowd of jSheep are > the same folks that saw IE7 for the first time and thought "Oh my god, > tabs in a browser! It's a first!". The organized, OO nature of > Mootools just curb-stomps all comers in my experiences coding for > complex apps. > > I hope this new breed of jDevelopers stop regurgitating jPlugins that > are copies of other library users' works, then receiving praise for > the "Brand New" cool thing they made. > > That said, I have a new jQuery plugin I wrote called jMilliVanilli. > It takes plugins and snippets from other libraries and creates carbon > copies of the work. Each jMilliVanilli copycat plugin comes with all > the appropriate jBranding, jSlogans, and jHype. For a small PayPal > donation, I will also send you a 16oz bottle of jKoolaid for all those > times you feel yourself starting to think outside of the jBox. > > jSincerely, > > Me > > > On Sep 28, 8:30 am, Aaron Newton <[email protected]> wrote: > > let me get this straight. > > someone wrote some plugins for jquery, put them all together (on a nice > > site), and named it jQuery Tools. It has 6 flexible plugins: > > > > tabs, custom scroll bars, tips, flash embedding, overlay. > > > > http://clientcide.com/docs/Layout/TabSwapper > > > > http://clientcide.com/docs/Layout/MooScroller > > > > http://mootools.net/docs/more/Interface/Tips > > > > http://mootools.net/docs/core/Utilities/Swiff > > > > http://clientcide.com/docs/UI/Modalizer > > > > 2009/9/28 Fábio M. Costa <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > Thats not a problem. > > > People are working on some UIs out there using mootools, youll see some > > > news about these shortly. > > > > > -- > > > Fábio Miranda Costa > > > Solucione Sistemas > > > Engenheiro de interface > > > > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 11:06 AM, limodou <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 6:59 PM, Oskar Krawczyk > > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> > Old news. > > > > >> > Also, this is a MooTools Group not jQ. > > > > >> yes I know, but maybe we can learn something from it. I send this > > >> email just want to see what can we learn from it. I also used jquery > > >> before, but now I turn to mootools, I think mootools is more suit for > > >> me. > > > > >> -- > > >> I like python! > > >> UliPad <<The Python Editor>>:http://code.google.com/p/ulipad/ > > >> UliWeb <<simple web framework>>:http://uliwebproject.appspot.com > > >> My Blog:http://hi.baidu.com/limodou >
