>So far the only reason behind having mooshell in PHP is that it is easier to
code with.
And that is why it makes sense to me :)

> I also can't see any reason why it couldn't equally be developed in
> Haskell.... or Java, RoR, Keppler, Perl, Fortran (eeeh no - take it back- no
> Fortran), name it. But I see the reason why it was done in Django. I like it
> that way.
Absolutely, I wasn't trying to suggest that it *should* be programed
in php, only that it would be possible.
The only reason *I* would like it in php is that *I* could jump in and
take a look at it easily without having to learn a new language.

> I'm not here to convince anyone to Django, but I see no point in rewriting
> the whole tool to a different language just because it is easier to someone.
Of course not, I don't think that anyone was suggesting that you
did :)

> Installation is now a step by step 
> process:http://wiki.github.com/zalun/mooshell/installation
I have taken a look at that and must admit to not having understood
pretty much any of it :(
It all looks like server-admin stuff to me, an area which I have
absolutely no knowledge in.
I don't have adminstrator rights to my hosting server and I wouldn't
know where to start if I did.

Let it be said that I realise that all these factors are MY short
comings, this is not a problem with mooshell (in any way), Django or
Python.
I just don't feel that it is anywhere near as simple as you might
think to somebody who has no experience in: python, Django or server
administration.

Thanks for you time and for your comments :)

Chris


On 27 oct, 12:58, Piotr Zalewa <[email protected]> wrote:
> So far the only reason behind having mooshell in PHP is that it is easier to
> code with.
>
> > I can't see any reason why it couldn't equally be developed with php
>
> I also can't see any reason why it couldn't equally be developed in
> Haskell.... or Java, RoR, Keppler, Perl, Fortran (eeeh no - take it back- no
> Fortran), name it. But I see the reason why it was done in Django. I like it
> that way.
>
> Well you know - I've been there (in the PHP world) for like 6 years (was it
> 8?) and since a year I'm using Django (day to day). I may tell you - I think
> PHP is to backend as jQuery is to JS - easy to learn, hard to really master.
> I actually found learning mootools and Django very similar - They both are
> more complicated on the beginning, but after a bit of learning (few days of
> fun) they are just awesome. When I have to go back to support old PHP sites
> with jQuery or Prototype I have a headache. Django/Python is very well
> documented, language is well structured, code is way cleaner just because it
> is thought out properly. Well what can I say more? Aaah there is a Python to
> Mootools class translator (not that it was used in MooShell).
>
> I'm not here to convince anyone to Django, but I see no point in rewriting
> the whole tool to a different language just because it is easier to someone.
> If you want to contribute to MooShell you may take it as a good excuse to
> learn another language - there's never enough of them once you start.
>
> MooShell is written as a Django application and may be added to an existing
> Django project pretty easily. It works like a plugin. Integrating it takes
> minutes. Regardless the database behind.
>
> There is only one framework into which I would consider to rewrite MooShell
> just to proove the point it can be done. Raccoonhttp://raccoon.keetology.com/
>
> If you want to contribute to front end you don't have to know
> Django/Python:  http://wiki.github.com/zalun/mooshell/html-js-css(please
> do)
>
> Installation is now a step by step 
> process:http://wiki.github.com/zalun/mooshell/installation
>
> Regards
> zalun
> --

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