The installation instructions are to make it run locally. If you want to run
it on a server you will need to install mod_python or use wsgi, it can be
tricky. But you dont need to install it on a server if you just want to
contribute anyway.

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Fábio Miranda Costa
Solucione Sistemas
Engenheiro de interface


On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Ryan Florence <[email protected]>wrote:

>
>  I just don't feel that it is anywhere near as simple as you might
>> think to somebody who has no experience in: python, Django or server
>> administration.
>>
>
> Django and similar frameworks do have an enormous hump for many.
>
> Believe me, it's worth it.
>
> Again, I don't do anything in Django but I know it's really similar to
> Rails.  I can do stuff in rails in 10 minutes what took me 10 days in php.
>  It'll be worth your time to figure it out.
>
>
> Ryan Florence
>
> [Writing TextMate Snippets] ( http://blog.flobro.com/ )
>
> On Oct 27, 2009, at 6:22 AM, cbolson wrote:
>
>
>>  So far the only reason behind having mooshell in PHP is that it is easier
>>> to
>>>
>> code with.
>> And that is why it makes sense to me :)
>>
>>  I also can't see any reason why it couldn't equally be developed in
>>> Haskell.... or Java, RoR, Keppler, Perl, Fortran (eeeh no - take it back-
>>> no
>>> Fortran), name it. But I see the reason why it was done in Django. I like
>>> it
>>> that way.
>>>
>> Absolutely, I wasn't trying to suggest that it *should* be programed
>> in php, only that it would be possible.
>> The only reason *I* would like it in php is that *I* could jump in and
>> take a look at it easily without having to learn a new language.
>>
>>  I'm not here to convince anyone to Django, but I see no point in
>>> rewriting
>>> the whole tool to a different language just because it is easier to
>>> someone.
>>>
>> Of course not, I don't think that anyone was suggesting that you
>> did :)
>>
>>  Installation is now a step by step process:
>>> http://wiki.github.com/zalun/mooshell/installation
>>>
>> I have taken a look at that and must admit to not having understood
>> pretty much any of it :(
>> It all looks like server-admin stuff to me, an area which I have
>> absolutely no knowledge in.
>> I don't have adminstrator rights to my hosting server and I wouldn't
>> know where to start if I did.
>>
>> Let it be said that I realise that all these factors are MY short
>> comings, this is not a problem with mooshell (in any way), Django or
>> Python.
>> I just don't feel that it is anywhere near as simple as you might
>> think to somebody who has no experience in: python, Django or server
>> administration.
>>
>> Thanks for you time and for your comments :)
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> On 27 oct, 12:58, Piotr Zalewa <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> So far the only reason behind having mooshell in PHP is that it is easier
>>> to
>>> code with.
>>>
>>>  I can't see any reason why it couldn't equally be developed with php
>>>>
>>>
>>> I also can't see any reason why it couldn't equally be developed in
>>> Haskell.... or Java, RoR, Keppler, Perl, Fortran (eeeh no - take it back-
>>> no
>>> Fortran), name it. But I see the reason why it was done in Django. I like
>>> it
>>> that way.
>>>
>>> Well you know - I've been there (in the PHP world) for like 6 years (was
>>> it
>>> 8?) and since a year I'm using Django (day to day). I may tell you - I
>>> think
>>> PHP is to backend as jQuery is to JS - easy to learn, hard to really
>>> master.
>>> I actually found learning mootools and Django very similar - They both
>>> are
>>> more complicated on the beginning, but after a bit of learning (few days
>>> of
>>> fun) they are just awesome. When I have to go back to support old PHP
>>> sites
>>> with jQuery or Prototype I have a headache. Django/Python is very well
>>> documented, language is well structured, code is way cleaner just because
>>> it
>>> is thought out properly. Well what can I say more? Aaah there is a Python
>>> to
>>> Mootools class translator (not that it was used in MooShell).
>>>
>>> I'm not here to convince anyone to Django, but I see no point in
>>> rewriting
>>> the whole tool to a different language just because it is easier to
>>> someone.
>>> If you want to contribute to MooShell you may take it as a good excuse to
>>> learn another language - there's never enough of them once you start.
>>>
>>> MooShell is written as a Django application and may be added to an
>>> existing
>>> Django project pretty easily. It works like a plugin. Integrating it
>>> takes
>>> minutes. Regardless the database behind.
>>>
>>> There is only one framework into which I would consider to rewrite
>>> MooShell
>>> just to proove the point it can be done. Raccoonhttp://
>>> raccoon.keetology.com/
>>>
>>> If you want to contribute to front end you don't have to know
>>> Django/Python:  
>>> http://wiki.github.com/zalun/mooshell/html-js-css(please<http://wiki.github.com/zalun/mooshell/html-js-css%28please>
>>> do)
>>>
>>> Installation is now a step by step process:
>>> http://wiki.github.com/zalun/mooshell/installation
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> zalun
>>> --
>>>
>>
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