>  jQuery is BY FAR the crappiest Big Thing in circulation right now,

I think you've been away from it for a while. jQuery has great browser
support and activity. It's also pushing adoption of newer JS features by
being modern first in their 2.0 and allowing smaller builds w/ custom
builds to boot.

I get that you have a problem with it's API, but its support, activity,
community involvement is top notch (they even have TC39 representation).
Instead of venting on jQuery to a dead mailing list you could try
contributing to MooTools or jQuery to make them better, maybe get MooTools
to version bump to support IE11 while you're at it.

- JDD



On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 2:40 PM, Sanford Whiteman <[email protected]>wrote:

> > The decline of MooTools rests on the MooTools core devs and no one
> > else.
>
> Yep, it is/was principally an internal problem (including the
> community as well) but I think you're whitewashing if you think
> Microsoft didn't buttress jQuery *in part* because jQ couldn't
> possibly compete design-wise with their OO product lines.
>
> Every .NET dev I know accepts that jQuery must be "good enough" if
> Microsoft chose it. Yet jQuery is "bad enough" that it keeps them from
> being compelled by native JavaScript and JS developer-focused
> frameworks; it keeps them thinking JS is basically what the world
> thought it was in 1995. And that belief keeps them away from building
> single-page clients against Node.JS, for example.
>
> Think about Microsoft actively embracing PHP over Python. And I'm a
> huge PHP guy, but I don't think that was _solely_ because PHP is the
> dominant language of the web; it also protects their products, because
> PHP will rarely be compelling to an experienced .NET dev (except maybe
> for selected tiny projects).
>
> Trust me, it's not "Microsoft's fault" that Moo is where it is, but
> nothing happens in a vacuum. jQuery is BY FAR the crappiest Big Thing
> in circulation right now, and just so happens to be embraced by the
> once-leaders in ensuring that crappy Big Things spread far and wide.
> Like the conspiracy freaks like to retort, "So you're a coincidence
> theorist?" :]
>
> -- Sandy
>
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