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Why don't people learn? You don't want to buy daybills. I know what I'm
talking about because I've been buying them for years, picking up great
film titles with superb artwork -- sometimes better than the US version -- for
great bargain prices because so many other collectors very properly turn up
their noses at them (along with French posters). These people know that the US
one-sheet is the pinnacle of collecting and that there is no point in wasting
their time on anything else. But still, every once in a while someone will come
along and wonder if they should buy some of these "daybill things".
Don't be fooled. Sure, these daybills are almost as large as a US insert
and are super-easy to frame and display. Sure they have great graphics. Sure,
they are in English. Sure they have great prices. But they are from Down Under,
people! So don't be crazy -- go back to only buying US versions of posters
before it's too late!!!
-- JR
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 20:37
Subject: [MOPO] DAYBILLS and other
things..
Natalie
The rarity or not of daybills is not much
different to US posters. Whilst
there are some titles that are easily found
and regularly appear on eBay,
others are extremely scarce. The same applies
to US posters. There are many
dealers in the US and elsewhere, including
myself, with large quantities of
certain good titles in either US one
sheets, lobby cards, inserts etc. I
have spent a lot of time in the US over
the years and have purchased a load
of material from various dealers and
collectors and it is often amazing to
see the quantities of posters on one
title that some people have.
Just as an example, I have come across one
dealer who seemed to have an
unlimited quantity of The Mole People inserts,
another had a load of Attack
of the 50 Foot Woman pressbooks and over 200
Halloween II one sheets. I have
boxes of US one sheets and lobby cards on
certain average to poor titles
that I would love to get rid of but will
probably take a lifetime to sell.
Even the more up market material like
Vertigo US one sheets appear almost
weekly for sale. A Vertigo US one sheet
is a very desirable poster and
always seems to get a good price but I can
only guess at how many have been
sold over the years. There seems to have
been one at every major auction in
living memory and most of the major
dealers have had them at one time or
another - same goes for Breakfast at
Tiffany's one sheets. Try finding an
Australian one sheet on Vertigo.
I can think of many, many, more US posters
that are kept in quantity by
various dealers.
Many dealers are naturally guarded about what they
have in quantity and
slowly feed them into the market, while others sell
off portions of their
stack to other dealers. Add that to the fact that US
posters were printed in
huge quantities and many were kept in storage long
after their release. US
posters were also sent to places like New Zealand
and Canada in bulk for the
release of films there and many have survived in
large numbers albeit with
censor stickers or stamps added.
There are
only about 4 or 5 real dealers in Australia and a few more part
timers.
Most of the serious dealers end up with the bulk of decent
Australian
titles and that is why you probably see certain titles appearing
regularly
with some of us. There are many more dealers in the US - much more
of a
spread of material but still many many good titles appear with
great
frequency.
Titles like Dial M for Murder are near impossible
to find in daybill format.
I have collected Hitchcock for years and have
never seen a daybill on that
title. There are many similar examples.
Conversely, daybills on To Kill a
Mockingbird or the reissue of the Day the
Earth Stood Still turn up quite
regularly on eBay.
You only have to
look at eBay to see that there is just too much material
for the available
market out there and the vast majority of it is from
the
USA.
Regards
John
JOHN REID VINTAGE MOVIE
MEMORABILIA
PO Box 92
Palm Beach
Qld
4221
Australia
WEBSITE:
www.moviemem.com
eBay Userid:
johnwr
All you need to know about Australian Posters......
http://www.moviemem.com/about.html
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Original Message -----
From: "Natalie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent:
Tuesday, August 17, 2004 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Incomplete Listings
-- My Pet Peeve
> Those daybills are incredibly rare, especially
when you have three dozen
> copies of them! (One Aussie seller I can
think of, he's not a MOPO
> member than I a am aware
of.)
>
> I'll put my hand up as a collector who *doesn't* search
for items in the
> category area, and sellers who list in the wrong
category still annoy
> me! Sometimes, novices (and even
"professionals"!) don't list them in
> the right category, you can miss
out then.
>
> Natalie
>
> Bruce Hershenson
wrote:
> >
> > JR
> >
> > You just have to
learn to read between the lines! If the listing
doesn't
> >
say "one-sheet" then there is no chance that it is one, for everyone
is
> > proud to have a one-sheet. If it doesn't say anything
about what it is,
> > then it is almost surely a scene lobby card, or
a herald, or a still.
If
> > it says "rare style" it is probably
an Australian daybill. If it says
> > "original" without a year
then it is probably an "original" reissue. If
it
> > says
"rare" it is virtually a certainty it ISN"T.
> >
> >
Eventually you get where you can recognize some dealers just by the
way
> > they list, and you can then just ignore them without even
clicking on a
> > single auction!
> >
> >
Bruce
> > eMoviePoster.com
> >
> > JR
wrote:
> > Jim,
> >
> > Hey, I got a bone to pick
with you -- and all the other sellers who
neglect
> > to put LC on
a lobby card listing on eBay or MoPoBid (or to put OS or
INS
> >
or HS for that matter). I'm not just addressing you here -- but I
went
to
> > look at your noir listings and that set me off on this
rant -- I'm
talking
> > to quite a few other sellers as well (you
KNOW who you are) and this is
> > what I want to say:
>
>
> > Look, we're all busy people, right? You want us to look at
your listing
> > pages on a regular basis? You want us to pay
attention to the FA posts
you
> > send to MoPo? Then how about
helping us out and IDENTIFYING your stuff
> > properly in the Title
of the listing, huh? I don't have time to be
looking
> > at
something I'm not going to buy, and I don't think very many
other
people
> > do these days -- not with the huge amount of
material to go through
every
> > week. You have to trust your
customers to know if they want an LC an OS
a
> > HS or an INS or
whatever. Don't try to "trick" them into looking at
> > something by
not properly identifying it. That may work once or twice
until
> >
I notice what you're doing -- but what happens when I run across 4 or
5
> > pages of listings and I see that most of them are not
correctly
identified
> > as to what type of poster they are in the
title? Aw... you guessed!
> >
> > --
JR
>
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the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com
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