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What a lot of trash being written on this
subject by some people who are clearly more interested in the value of the
paper they hold rather than the artistic or cultural content of a poster
collection.
If a piece of art only becomes pleasing to your
eyes when you see the high price tag, then you really do need to examine your
value sets.
If the purpose of owning and collecting movie
posters is to display them, enjoy them and live with them each day , rather than
store them away in a drawer somewhere, then the case being made by John Reid for
Australian Day bills is a very valid point.
Call me a cynic but I guess people who don't want
to see interest diverted from US1 sheets to Australian, French, British or for
that matter any other poster format have a very vested interest in maintaining
high prices for US1 sheets.
Regards
Siamak Bashi
Managing Director
www.CQout.com
"The Most Trusted Online
Auctions"
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Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 10:07
AM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Ummm... Daybills are
bad... ummm, OK?
Buy that man a beer... or
three!!!
Phil Edwards Cinema Arts Pty Ltd 26 Vista Avenue Soldiers
Point NSW 2317 AUSTRALIA Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Phone/Fax
(International Dial) 0011 61 2 49847233 Phone/Fax (Domestic Dial) 02
4984 7233 Website: www.cinemarts.com
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 4:20
PM
Subject: [MOPO] Ummm... Daybills are
bad... ummm, OK?
Why don't people learn? You don't want to buy daybills. I know what I'm
talking about because I've been buying them for years, picking up great
film titles with superb artwork -- sometimes better than the US version --
for great bargain prices because so many other collectors very properly turn
up their noses at them (along with French posters). These people know that
the US one-sheet is the pinnacle of collecting and that there is no point in
wasting their time on anything else. But still, every once in a while
someone will come along and wonder if they should buy some of these "daybill
things".
Don't be fooled. Sure, these daybills are almost as large as a US
insert and are super-easy to frame and display. Sure they have great
graphics. Sure, they are in English. Sure they have great prices. But they
are from Down Under, people! So don't be crazy -- go back to only buying US
versions of posters before it's too late!!!
-- JR
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004
20:37
Subject: [MOPO] DAYBILLS and other
things..
Natalie
The rarity or not of daybills is not much
different to US posters. Whilst
there are some titles that are easily
found and regularly appear on eBay,
others are extremely scarce. The
same applies to US posters. There are many
dealers in the US and
elsewhere, including myself, with large quantities of
certain good
titles in either US one sheets, lobby cards, inserts etc. I
have spent
a lot of time in the US over the years and have purchased a load
of
material from various dealers and collectors and it is often amazing
to
see the quantities of posters on one title that some people
have.
Just as an example, I have come across one dealer who seemed
to have an
unlimited quantity of The Mole People inserts, another had a
load of Attack
of the 50 Foot Woman pressbooks and over 200 Halloween
II one sheets. I have
boxes of US one sheets and lobby cards on certain
average to poor titles
that I would love to get rid of but will
probably take a lifetime to sell.
Even the more up market material
like Vertigo US one sheets appear almost
weekly for sale. A Vertigo US
one sheet is a very desirable poster and
always seems to get a good
price but I can only guess at how many have been
sold over the years.
There seems to have been one at every major auction in
living memory
and most of the major dealers have had them at one time or
another -
same goes for Breakfast at Tiffany's one sheets. Try finding
an
Australian one sheet on Vertigo. I can think of many, many, more US
posters
that are kept in quantity by various dealers.
Many
dealers are naturally guarded about what they have in quantity
and
slowly feed them into the market, while others sell off portions of
their
stack to other dealers. Add that to the fact that US posters were
printed in
huge quantities and many were kept in storage long after
their release. US
posters were also sent to places like New Zealand and
Canada in bulk for the
release of films there and many have survived in
large numbers albeit with
censor stickers or stamps added.
There
are only about 4 or 5 real dealers in Australia and a few more
part
timers. Most of the serious dealers end up with the bulk of
decent
Australian titles and that is why you probably see certain
titles appearing
regularly with some of us. There are many more dealers
in the US - much more
of a spread of material but still many many good
titles appear with great
frequency.
Titles like Dial M for
Murder are near impossible to find in daybill format.
I have collected
Hitchcock for years and have never seen a daybill on that
title. There
are many similar examples. Conversely, daybills on To Kill
a
Mockingbird or the reissue of the Day the Earth Stood Still turn up
quite
regularly on eBay.
You only have to look at eBay to see
that there is just too much material
for the available market out there
and the vast majority of it is from
the
USA.
Regards
John
JOHN REID VINTAGE MOVIE
MEMORABILIA
PO Box 92
Palm Beach
Qld
4221
Australia
WEBSITE:
www.moviemem.com
eBay Userid:
johnwr
All you need to know about Australian Posters......
http://www.moviemem.com/about..html
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Original Message -----
From: "Natalie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent:
Tuesday, August 17, 2004 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Incomplete
Listings -- My Pet Peeve
> Those daybills are incredibly
rare, especially when you have three dozen
> copies of them! (One
Aussie seller I can think of, he's not a MOPO
> member than I a am
aware of.)
>
> I'll put my hand up as a collector who
*doesn't* search for items in the
> category area, and sellers who
list in the wrong category still annoy
> me! Sometimes, novices (and
even "professionals"!) don't list them in
> the right category, you
can miss out then.
>
> Natalie
>
> Bruce
Hershenson wrote:
> >
> > JR
> >
> >
You just have to learn to read between the lines! If the
listing
doesn't
> > say "one-sheet" then there is no chance
that it is one, for everyone is
> > proud to have a
one-sheet. If it doesn't say anything about what it is,
> >
then it is almost surely a scene lobby card, or a herald, or a
still.
If
> > it says "rare style" it is probably an
Australian daybill. If it says
> > "original" without a
year then it is probably an "original" reissue. If
it
>
> says "rare" it is virtually a certainty it ISN"T.
>
>
> > Eventually you get where you can recognize some dealers
just by the way
> > they list, and you can then just ignore them
without even clicking on a
> > single auction!
>
>
> > Bruce
> > eMoviePoster.com
> >
>
> JR wrote:
> > Jim,
> >
> > Hey, I got a
bone to pick with you -- and all the other sellers who
neglect
>
> to put LC on a lobby card listing on eBay or MoPoBid (or to put OS
or
INS
> > or HS for that matter). I'm not just
addressing you here -- but I went
to
> > look at your noir
listings and that set me off on this rant -- I'm
talking
> >
to quite a few other sellers as well (you KNOW who you are) and this
is
> > what I want to say:
> >
> > Look, we're
all busy people, right? You want us to look at your listing
> >
pages on a regular basis? You want us to pay attention to the FA
posts
you
> > send to MoPo? Then how about helping us out and
IDENTIFYING your stuff
> > properly in the Title of the listing,
huh? I don't have time to be
looking
> > at something I'm not
going to buy, and I don't think very many other
people
> > do
these days -- not with the huge amount of material to go
through
every
> > week. You have to trust your customers to
know if they want an LC an OS
a
> > HS or an INS or whatever.
Don't try to "trick" them into looking at
> > something by not
properly identifying it. That may work once or twice
until
> >
I notice what you're doing -- but what happens when I run across 4
or 5
> > pages of listings and I see that most of them are not
correctly
identified
> > as to what type of poster they are in
the title? Aw... you guessed!
> >
> > --
JR
>
>
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