Dearest Kirby,

I don't particularly care how rare the "teaser" is.  To my thinking, the
person that takes that poster at that price is a schmuck.  They may covet it
for its "rarity," its beauty, or size, whatever.  Just because something is
rare (if this poster is indeed rare) doesn't make it valuable to everyone or
even most.  To that person who would actually go looking for this teaser and
its spread of prices, well that's the person likely to be motivated and to
potentially be your purchaser.  Its not me.  And probably not most folk.  By
the way, I've owned a YS one sheet, currently own HDN, LIB, and H 3-Sheets
(LBacked all), and possess a number of signed Beatles memorabilia items.
I'm also in touch with a number of Beatles Collectibles vendors and if I was
inclined to search, I doubt I would have much difficulty finding the piece
(for under $4000.).  Hence, hope you find your ....  Good idea on the movie.
I just picked up "For Whom the Bell Tolls."  Not everyone's idea of a good
film, but I can't wait to watch it again.  Hmm, you catch heat for some of
your asking prices?  Yeah, I guess I knew this because this raises its head
on MOPO every now and again.  Its just us select few (rare) miscreants. :)

Saul

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kirby McDaniel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Saul H. Chapman PhD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Huh? MIDNIGHT COWBOY original polish for how much?


Saul, et al:

I can take a pretty good bit of heat about prices and I don't care,
particularly.  I ask a good price for the rare stuff and sell the
ordinary stuff at a price where
I can make a living.  But the idea that someone who would pay a
particular price for a particular poster is a "schmuck" is a cheap
shot.  I tell you what:
you find me another TEASER quad on YELLOW SUBMARINE, then we'll talk
about who's a schmuck and who isn't.  You're  welcome to canvass the
British dealers and get back to us on that.   Meanwhile, if you're
bored, maybe you should take in a good movie.

Kirby McDaniel
MovieArt Original Film Posters
P.O. Box 4419
Austin TX 78765-4419
512 479 6680

On Aug 27, 2004, at 1:38 PM, Saul H. Chapman PhD wrote:

> If Kirby can ask $4000.00 (firm) for a "Yellow Submarine" British Quad
> and no one raises an eyebrow, why can't Helmut ask for $1200 for a
> Polish "Midnight Cowboy" one sheet? By the way, since when does
> justifying asking prices around here mean a damn thing? And if people
> are basing there estimates and asking prices on price guides, forget
> it. Those price guides are crap, always have been crap. Ask Kirby
> what criteria he used to come up with $4000. My final analysis is
> that the poster is worth what anyone is willing to pay for it. I hope
> Kirby finds his schmuck. By the way, I have an Australian one sheet
> LB "The Last Temptation of Christ." Asking price -- $25,000. Did I
> kick up some 'ire? Hope so. MOPO is getting damn boring.
>
> Saul
> ----- Original Message -----
>  From:  J R
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 1:21 PM
> Subject: [MOPO] Huh? MIDNIGHT COWBOY original polish for how much?
>
> Pardon my impudence, but just what is it that makes this polish poster
> worth $1200? In checking Bruce's price database (where the prices
> realized are always top-dollar and better than you'll find anywhere
> else), I see that the US version regularly goes for between $200 to
> $400. Bruce did sell the Polish version of the one sheet two years ago
> for $685.75 cents.
>
> My ignorance about Polish posters leaves me unaware of the special
> circumstances surrounding this one. I am guessing the art is really
> superb and that it is much harder to find than most other editions of
> this poster. But what has changed in the past 2 years to justify a
> doubling in price? Was there a big auction where this poster hit the
> $1200 price mark as a result of competitive bidding or what?
>
> I'm asking this as a curious, disinterested party who has no desire to
> buy a MIDNIGHT COWBOY one sheet from any country at any price. But I
> am a bit perplexed and it ties in with something else that's been
> simmering on the back boiler in what I laughingly call my mind:
>
> Lately I have noticed this sort of asking price increase happen with a
> lot of posters from other countries -- and the high prices being
> asked are not necessarily being asked by overseas dealers either --
> they are being asked by dealers here in the US who have these
> non-English language posters in their inventory.
>
> So in general -- and to no one person specifically -- I'd like to ask:
> What's the deal here? I know the value of the Euro has increased over
> the US dollar recently -- but it sure hasn't doubled or tripled and
> you bought most of your inventory before that happened, didn't you?
> And that special circumstance only applies to dealers outside of the
> US anyway. I know there are people -- myself included -- who have
> started buying non-U.S. posters in recent years because in many cases
> the graphics are better and, perhaps even more important, because in
> virtually all cases the prices have been "better".
>
> Of course, anyone can ask whatever price they want for their posters.
> It's a free world. But my humble suggestion to those who sell these
> posters: Don't get greedy. Don't kill the goose that lays the golden
> eggs -- let the auction market work and don't try to arbitrarily
> double or triple the prices of these posters -- least you nip the
> recent increased trend towards buying non-US posters in the bud.
> Speaking just for myself, if this keeps up I personally will probably
> go back to focusing pretty much on US posters.
>
> -- JR
> ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Helmut Hamm
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 6:06
> Subject: [MOPO] FS: MIDNIGHT COWBOY original polish
>
> Original release polish poster, art by Swierzy, a landmark in polish
> poster design.
>
> Very Fine condition, unfolded. $1,200.
>
> Images on request.
>
> Helmut Hamm
> Galerie filmposter.net
>
>
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