[MOPO] What we got here is failure to communicate!!

[Susan Heim]

Hey Gang,   Happy New Year !!  I have been away from my computer for a few days and am glad I came in on the end of this "gay" thread.  That way I got to read a whole bevy of posts before I "foolishly" jump into the brew!  One thing does amaze me, though,  after all these years of David posting, that so many of you just don't get his sense of humor. Having known David for many years and consider him a good friend in the "outside" world, I know that there was no offense meant in asking "are you gay?" I'm sure it was more of a rhetorical question that one meant to actually take a census. He is truly one of the most honest (from his background) and kind (from his wife) people I have ever known. Always there when you need him.    I didn't find the posts in response to Brokeback Mountain that unusual. After all, we here on the group are just a microcosm of the real world and that's how the real world is, split in their views of many subjects, not just homosexuality. I'm sure what makes it difficult here is when you have so much in common with fellow members on a regular basis and then some can have such harsh views that, while I'm not sure are meant to, can hurt feelings, especially if you are gay. Evan spoke of living in a very tolerant community and taking it for granted. I'm sure many of the people on this group do not live in a "tolerant" community. That was evidenced by the last election. So it's probably difficult to hear certain comments when you have come to feel "comfortable" in a group.   While certain comments are sad to me, I am heartened by many of the comments of tolerance and support I did hear especially from guys like JR and Bruce, who I consider good men. I do believe in to each his own. While I may disagree with some people view's on many topics, I support your right to have those views. The problem I have is that some of those views propagate violence. Andy mentioned that his father brought him up to kiss ladies and not gents. That's fine, but what would have happened if Andy was born gay. Would he have hidden his feelings or would he have had an understanding enough father to love and accept him whatever his orientation?  I have had many a gay friend who were ostracized by their family and friends once their homosexuality was out in the open. It's no wonder, as someone said, that so many gay men live straight lives because they fear the ramifications of coming out. Who wouldn't?   So.........whatever your views..........have a wonderful and safe new year. Good health to you all and, more than anything, happiness and love wherever you can find it.   Sue Heim   ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Episale To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 9:40 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] No gay lists !!! David no offense taken here thought provoking and well written as usual jim ------------------------------------ Unshredded Nostalgia Jim Episale [EMAIL PROTECTED] 323 south main st Route 9 Barnegat nj 08005 tel: 800 872 9990 www.unshreddednostalgia.com ------------------------------------ -----Original Message----- From: MoPo List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Kusumoto Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 11:41 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] No gay lists !!! OK, so I've been taken to the woodshed.  Notes subsequent to my purposely provocative subject line, "Are You Gay?" I hoped clarified the proper context of my query, half in jest, as to its relevance when discussing films w/themes covering territory familiar to some, but not to all.  You know, I've been on this list since the 1990s and tangent comments related to film at the occasional exclusion of movie posters have always been OK.  So for the very few who took my comments as having the moral equivalence of a McCarthy witch-hunt, geez, if I have to explain they weren't, it's obvious some thought I slipped off the steering wheel and crashed into the trash heap... koose! ----Original Message Follows---- From: JR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: JR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: No gay lists !!! Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 10:53:46 -0500 Aw, c'mon now, people... this *is* a movie poster list. Sure, occasionally we go a bit off track talking about a movie, but at least they are called "movie" posters... This subject has ABSOLUTELY NO PLACE on MOPO and, David, that you of all people should call for a show on hands about the subject here... really. -- JR          Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com    ___________________________________________________________________               How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List        Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]             In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L     The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.11/219 - Release Date: 1/2/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. 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