Hi Bruce, Thanks for the info. One thing. Can I/we ask.... Who offered you, Sam and Joe these posters below wholesale? NOT that I want to buy, I agree they are fakes, but maybe we can start backtracking to where these things came from originally.
Thanks, Ari ----- Original Message ---- From: Bruce Hershenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, 20 June, 2007 12:03:55 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] The results of the "minty white" poll, and MY views about them A few added points: 1) The "minty white" inserts ARE fuzzier to the view of the naked eye (and this becomes obvious under magnification), and anyone who has a printing background can see it immediately, and others should have a pretty good idea of what is real and what is minty white just on a quick in-person view. But it REALLY helps if you have owned lots of genuine ones as to whether it is easy for you to tell the difference. But it is really not as hard as some make it out! In just about every case where a person has sent me a "minty white" to sell for them, when I have called them to tell them the bad news, they say "I kind of suspected it, but was hoping I was somehow wrong". I ask where they purchased them and it is almost always the same four dealers (I will not name them, but they are easy to determine, because they list these on eBay regularly; if they STOP listing them, that would be great for the hobby)! 2) They DO age somewhat, but apparently the different coated stock (glossy both sides) ages FAR less quickly than genuine inserts. They almost always still look "minty white", even after years. I would bet the ones that HAVE aged have been artificially aged by being moistened or left in the sun. But you can't hide the blurriness of the printing or the art crop on some, so that is only a minor worry (it is like putting earrings on a pig; it make look better, but it is still a pig). 3) This forum is proof of what I say about these. The ONLY people defending these as possibly real are ones who own (or have sold) them, and they clearly have a vested interest in them being real. You have heard from Sam Sarowitz, Joe Burtis, and myself that we are 100% sure they are repros and that we turned down the chance to buy them for WAY below wholesale. Do any of you think we turned down this "free money" for any other reason than that we were certain they were repros and we refused to cheat our customers? Also, we three have sold hundreds of thousands of posters for tens of millions of dollars, and we have all done this as a full time living for decades. Is that not as "expert" an opinion as you could find. 4) There have been postings here about a Jaws insert and a Blade Runner insert. Just seeing the digital images was enough to make me 99% certain they were both minty whites. If any of you have any inserts you think could possibly be minty whites, you would do well to post a clear large image here BEFORE offering it for sale. You will surely quickly receive expert help in determining if it is real or fake. I know it stinks to have to lose $100 or more on a poster you were deceived into buying as an original, but it is far worse to yourself offer it as an original, and then come off looking as a rank amateur when it is revealed to be a repro. 5) As to how long standing experts in this hobby could not know much (or anything) about the minty whites, it is completely logical to me. There is NO way you would ever come in contact with one of these unless you bought it directly from those who made these repros, or if you re-purchased it from someone who bought it from them. NONE of these ever saw the inside of a theater, and since many experts only deal with actual theater used posters, why WOULD they ever come in contact with these? The fact that Ed Poole has never seen these in person is just one more coffin nail of proof that these are surely fakes. But PLEASE all of you quit bickering amongst yourselves and turn your indignation against those who made these repros and sold them as originals, and most of all, let's all ostracize those who continue to sell them. We will help the new collectors keep from being cheated as so many others were, and we will likely cause these dealers to quit selling them, as they see that the small profit they make from continuing to cheat people is far more than offset by the money they lose from collectors refusing to deal with them! 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