Well - do as much business as you can without PP and you will save money all round.
The are the premium gougers of all financial transactions, especially on international sales. There has to SOME reason why they are trying to push all users to direct debit from bank accounts instead of going through their once close buddies VISA/Mastercard. Maybe someone found someone screwing someone and getting sloppy seconds? And at the risk of self promotion here, in Australia we can legally charge back VISA/Mastercard fees to the buyer from our secure server. But we don't. And we sure as heck would prefer buyers to use that facility than Paypal. Absurdly and financially obscenely, we have had Australian buyers use PP to pay us in US$ instead of the common sense and less fee-drastic direct debit/tranfer of the way most Australian pay their bills. DD, or B-Pay.... instead choosing to give PP a % and and obscenely distorted exchange rate. Totally ridiculous, unless one believes the BS of PP's "buyer protection". Which sits nicely next to Fleabay's driving mentality of TRUST NO ONE, BUT WE CAN PROTECT YOU!!! Such protection is like a condom with a small pinhole in the end of it. Utterly daft. Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael B To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 11:40 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] O.k....Where do you stand? 3 weeks ago, i purchased a poster from someone who doesn't accept paypal. cost me a stamp!!!! michael and Insurance then. gavel price + buyer's premium + S&H + insurance (if not included in S&H) = financial investment = final cost of item (not including the dime here and there if you had to call in the bid using a non-800 phone number) -----Original Message----- From: Saul H. Chapman, Ph.D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 9:37 pm Subject: Re: [MOPO] O.k....Where do you stand? and Insurance then. gavel price + buyer's premium + S&H + insurance (if not included in S&H) = financial investment = final cost of item (not including the dime here and there if you had to call in the bid using a non-800 phone number) ----- Original Message ----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [email protected] Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 8:30 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] O.k....Where do you stand? I AGREE 100% BUT, ALSO, ADD SHIIPPING. when i tell some what i've paid, i respond, $ XXX WITH shipping. my investment is the total cost. michael gavel price + buyer's premium is final cost of item. How could it be anything else? Saul -----Original Message----- From: Saul H. Chapman, Ph.D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 9:19 pm Subject: Re: [MOPO] O.k....Where do you stand? gavel price + buyer's premium is final cost of item. How could it be anything else? Saul ----- Original Message ----- From: Susan Heim To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 8:10 PM Subject: [MOPO] O.k....Where do you stand? Hello all, I was talking with a fellow collector yesterday about auctions. A subject came up that seems to have some controversary of opinions regarding auction results. Let's say the gavel comes down for an item sold at $500, but with the buyer's premium the total cost is $600. I often hear many people say "that item sold for $500", but in my opinion it sold for $600. I have had many people say to me you don't count the buyer's premium, but that sounds ridiculous to me since the overall cost of the item to the buyer was $600. That final value means alot when you have items closing in the thousands and the buyer's premiums add several thousand more. I have customers looking for certain titles and they will quote recent auction sales and often, especially when seeking to buy not sell, quote the gavel price without the buyer's premium. I will mention to them that the price they are quoting isn't the true selling price that you have to include the buyer's premium. They will then inform me that since they are looking to buy from a private party, the buyer's premium doesn't apply. As I shake my head, I suggest that if you are going to quote auction prices, you have to include the buyer's premium as that is really the final cost of the item and what someone was willing to pay "total" for said item. For instance, if Breakfast at Tiffany's gaveled at $5000, but the final cost was $6000, how can you say "Breakfast at Tiffany's just sold for $5000"? I'm rambling, I know......What do you all think? 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