Well, "myself," I am NOT fine with political discourse -- ANYTIME on MoPo. I
get all I want on the thousands of blogs available. Insults and even "truth"
in a political discussion are subjective. When a person discusses sex,
politics or religion in MIXED company -- more than any other -- they forget
that declaring a view some listeners might disagree (vs. one about posters) --
is a short-hand way of telling you that your thinking is flawed -- or worse,
that you yourself are flawed. When I have TIME, I'll talk politics off-list,
even stray "on-list" if it's about a film. Friends who've read me on MoPo
since the 90s know this. I hate this s***. But only HERE.
-kuz w/the news.
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 17:47:56 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: I am REALLY
angry at George Bush and this DemocraticTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED], I'm fine with
political discourse anytime.. however it comes with a caveat:each person must
respect each other person's point of view, not revert to insults, name calling
or disparagement and therein lay the rub.I can't remember where I read it a
week or so ago, but one news columnist mentioned that too many people are
"trying to win an argument" over politics even to the point of fabricating or
twisting truth to prop up one's argument. He went on to say that it is better
to be "smart" and try to keep intelligent discourse. No one is trying to win in
a discussion if they are smart.. However if one is smart all by itself,
generally speaking - that is the winner of any discussion.and I love posters
with gorillas and womenI also love poster with women and no gorillason occasion
I love a poster with just the gorillaand finally, an ape is just as good.. as
long as there is a woman involvedAt 04:28 PM 10/25/2008, David Kusumoto wrote:
No, Bruce doesn't get a free pass to talk politics just because he's Bruce
Almighty. He broke a rule and the scant number of responses thus far specific
to politics -- reflects a respect for the rules -- or a reluctance to engage a
subject that should be kept off these boards. Hence Franc is RIGHT. Off this
list, my pals already know how I voted last week (I always vote absentee) --
and while it's a shocker even for me -- people don't care. When historians
properly judge today from the perspective of what's to come over the next 50
years -- we'll be dead. We're still learning more about Truman, Ike, JFK, LBJ,
Nixon/Ford and Carter, for Ch*****-sakes. Polemics/diatribes do not change
most people's minds. -kuz w/the news.
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 15:04:03 -0400From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Fwd: [MOPO] I am
REALLY angry at George Bush and this Democratic Congress!To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This was meant to be 'Reply All'. LOLOL!!!!!!! Sorry, Bruce. Really sorry,
man. lolo...... I was kind of freaked out by your response as well. :0)
Begin forwarded message:
From: Freedom Lover <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Date: October 25, 2008 11:31:21 AM EDT
To: Bruce Hershenson < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MOPO] I am REALLY angry at George Bush and this Democratic
Congress!
I got in trouble last time I said what I thought. I think Al Gore should have
been President because he won and that we wouldn't be in this kind of trouble
if he had. I also think the planet, at least America, would be in better
condition for our kids, green jobs would already be abundant, ergo we wouldn't
be in this financial mess (as deeply) , etc.
I think it's pretty obvious the primary was was won by Hillary and that Bill
would have gone in and fixed whatever he screwed up the first time, which I'm
sure so many Presidents wish they could have also done. I think we'd have a
kick-ass health program.
And finally, after this past decade, I think we should have an Independent for
POTUS. They work between party lines. In fact, I think it would do us well to
not have a politician for President. I think a successful entrepreneur has
more knowledge of what America needs than a politician who just knows what
America wants to hear.
PS: If Bruce talks politics, it's OK. If I do it, it's not. There's a Yiddish
expression for people like that...
Andrea
On Oct 25, 2008, at 10:07 AM, Bruce Hershenson wrote:
I KNOW full well that my current 9th Halloween auction is far and away my best
ever (and you guys have ONLY seen Parts I and II, and you are going to be even
MORE amazed when you see Parts III and IV next week, which includes much of the
best material!).
I also know full well that these items would have certainly sold incredibly
well any previous year. I feel certain they deserve to, and if they don't, I
feel the blame can surely be placed on George Bush and this Democratic
Congress. Their massively wrong-headed policies in so many ways have hurt the
world drastically, and it may take decades to undo what they did in 8 years
(but maybe once the elections are over, we can quickly get on the right track,
and it hopefully won't take nearly that long).
If there ARE many bargains to be found in these auctions, I hope that long-time
collectors will take advantage of them!
Does anyone here doubt that George Bush will go down as the worst President in
American history? And I am not being partisan in saying this, for I feel the
Democratic Congress is at least equally to blame for all the terrible decisions
that were made the past 8 years (some they came up with on their own, and some
they simply went along with Bush, passing his wacky ideas, when any sane person
would have recognized them as recipes for disaster). And they let the robber
barons on Wall Street loot the country for 7 years, and then, when those fools
managed to bankrupt themselves, they go along with the insane plan of bailing
them out with OUR money!
What do YOU think?
Bruce
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to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing ListSend a message addressed to: [EMAIL
PROTECTED] the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-LThe author of this
message is solely responsible for its content.At 05:37 PM 10/25/2008, Phil
Edwards wrote:
The occasional OT post is healthy for any group.Phil
----- Original Message -----
From: McDaniel Kirby
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] I am REALLY angry at George Bush and this Democratic
Congress!
BRUCE ALMIGHTY? Now there's a moniker for you.
Can I then be The Kirb that Passeth All Understanding?
One distinguished member of this group already addresses me as G.
I will not say who.
K.
On Oct 25, 2008, at 6:28 PM, David Kusumoto wrote:
No, Bruce doesn't get a free pass to talk politics just because he's Bruce
Almighty. He broke a rule and the scant number of responses thus far specific
to politics -- reflects a respect for the rules -- or a reluctance to engage a
subject that should be kept off these boards. Hence Franc is RIGHT. Off this
list, my pals already know how I voted last week (I always vote absentee) --
and while it's a shocker even for me -- people don't care. When historians
properly judge today from the perspective of what's to come over the next 50
years -- we'll be dead. We're still learning more about Truman, Ike, JFK, LBJ,
Nixon/Ford and Carter, for Ch*****-sakes. Polemics/diatribes do not change
most people's minds.
-kuz w/the news.
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 15:04:03 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Fwd: [MOPO] I am REALLY angry at George Bush and this Democratic
Congress!
To: [email protected]
OK. This was meant to be 'Reply All'. LOLOL!!!!!!! Sorry, Bruce. Really
sorry, man. lolo...... I was kind of freaked out by your response as well.
:0)
Begin forwarded message:
From: Freedom Lover <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Date: October 25, 2008 11:31:21 AM EDT
To: Bruce Hershenson < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MOPO] I am REALLY angry at George Bush and this Democratic
Congress!
I got in trouble last time I said what I thought. I think Al Gore should have
been President because he won and that we wouldn't be in this kind of trouble
if he had. I also think the planet, at least America, would be in better
condition for our kids, green jobs would already be abundant, ergo we wouldn't
be in this financial mess (as deeply) , etc.
I think it's pretty obvious the primary was was won by Hillary and that Bill
would have gone in and fixed whatever he screwed up the first time, which I'm
sure so many Presidents wish they could have also done. I think we'd have a
kick-ass health program.
And finally, after this past decade, I think we should have an Independent for
POTUS. They work between party lines. In fact, I think it would do us well to
not have a politician for President. I think a successful entrepreneur has
more knowledge of what America needs than a politician who just knows what
America wants to hear.
PS: If Bruce talks politics, it's OK. If I do it, it's not. There's a Yiddish
expression for people like that...
Andrea
On Oct 25, 2008, at 10:07 AM, Bruce Hershenson wrote:
I KNOW full well that my current 9th Halloween auction is far and away my best
ever (and you guys have ONLY seen Parts I and II, and you are going to be even
MORE amazed when you see Parts III and IV next week, which includes much of the
best material!).
I also know full well that these items would have certainly sold incredibly
well any previous year. I feel certain they deserve to, and if they don't, I
feel the blame can surely be placed on George Bush and this Democratic
Congress. Their massively wrong-headed policies in so many ways have hurt the
world drastically, and it may take decades to undo what they did in 8 years
(but maybe once the elections are over, we can quickly get on the right track,
and it hopefully won't take nearly that long).
If there ARE many bargains to be found in these auctions, I hope that long-time
collectors will take advantage of them!
Does anyone here doubt that George Bush will go down as the worst President in
American history? And I am not being partisan in saying this, for I feel the
Democratic Congress is at least equally to blame for all the terrible decisions
that were made the past 8 years (some they came up with on their own, and some
they simply went along with Bush, passing his wacky ideas, when any sane person
would have recognized them as recipes for disaster). And they let the robber
barons on Wall Street loot the country for 7 years, and then, when those fools
managed to bankrupt themselves, they go along with the insane plan of bailing
them out with OUR money!
What do YOU think?
Bruce
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are no acceptable limits and there are no acceptable prejudices in the
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