yes and another possibility is that the 1 sheet - which is the only poster of the title that has a different art - can be both by Peak and Bass

Peak's face art & Bass' cells bars & birds

in other words, a "Saul Bass design"

but looking at the art I don't think there can be any doubt that Lancaster's face on the 1 sheet is by Peak - though it isn't the exact face on the other posters - at least by looking at photos. I only have a 1 sheet so I can't match anything here

a separate question though.. are all other "Bass attributed" posters for Otto Preminger films?
if so, why should anyone think Bass had any connection to this poster?

Rich=========


At 04:30 PM 11/24/2008, Richard Evans wrote:
The head in the I sht is the exact same head as in the window card isn't it?
One thing that made sense about the theory that the 1 sht was Bass/Peak is that the head looks like it's by a different designer and been plonked on. Mostly he was lucky, a lot of his best work got away with being pure design, Vertigo, Anatomy, Bonjour Tristesse, Love in the Afternoon etc
Though MWTGA suffered by having heads in it, apart from the 6 sht design.
Don't know where that theory came from, about Bass, whether assumption, sales technique or whether it was based in fact at all. Could be I guess, (without that head) but could also easily be someone influenced.
Seen Bass credited as doing the titles, not positive on that though.

Cheers,
Rich

On 24 Nov 2008, at 23:01, Richard Halegua Comic Art wrote:

oh.. just looked at the Birdman 1sh.. yes black blots, but if you examine the face of lancaster and examine the wc image.. there is a lot of similarity


At 02:01 PM 11/24/2008, Dave Rosen wrote:
I, for one, would love to find out who did those RKO posters. The late 40s, early 50s RKO 1-sheets are among the most attractive US 1-sheets ever, IMHO. It would be nice to put artists' names to this beautiful artwork

Dave
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From: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Phil Edwards
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Subject: Re: [MOPO] One sheet for Birdman of Alcatraz

<http://www.bobpeak.com/artpage.cfm?artid=33>http://www.bobpeak.com/artpage.cfm?artid=33

While BIRDMAN is listed, there are no examples and it falls very early in his film poster career, so he may have done the WC, but not any other key art that was used.

No one ever mentions that the famous Brando with sponge key art for the German APOCALYPSE NOW by Peak is flopped - his siganture is there, but is back to front.

As for not listing artists unless signed, there are exceptions - such as Amsel's international art for CHINATOWN used in Australia (both as full colour and duotone second printings) and Germany. The US paper on CHINATOWN is often attributed erroneously to Amsel but isn't by him.

What about all the Reynold Brown art that's unsigned but is well known and documented as by Brown, or Albert Kallis et al? Of course studio/distributor art departments often added other material to the key art (apart from credits and sometimes title) of work by known artists.

Poster artists, with few exceptions such as Drew, Peak, Brown, Kallis, etc.go almost completely unacknowledged - which considering it's actually art that is being collected when one collects movie posters does seem a little odd.

What artists, for example, did all those great RKO posters of the 40s and 50s?

Phil

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From: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Bruce Hershenson
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Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:46 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] One sheet for Birdman of Alcatraz
Bob Peak did the window card, which is signed. All the other posters are not like the window card, and I don't think Peak did any of them.

I think it is likely Bob Peak told Dan Strebin he did some art for Birdman of Alcatraz, and Dan misheard, or maybe Peak mis-remembered.

In my database, I only use artists' names if the art is signed, for this very reason. On Moon Over Miami, one of the one-sheets is by Vargas, and the pressbook states that many of the other posters were drawn in the Vargas style by other artists.

Bruce
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 12:36 AM, Richard Halegua Comic Art <<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Bob Peak told Dan Strebin he did this art
it does look like other art he was doing in the time period


At 10:30 PM 11/23/2008, you wrote:
Can somebody tell me who did the artwork on this poster?
Thanks, Channing Thomson
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