Yes, that's the theory that was knocking round a while back,
(subsequent to the sole Bass design credit), that it was Bass with
Peak addition.
Grabbed a couple of heads off WC, 3 sht images, compared to 1 sht in
photoshop, heads appear to be exact same art, just cropped differently.
Other than style being similar to Bass, attribution could be down to
him doing the titles, I'll dig and see if I can confirm he did titles.
Off the top of my head, incorrect attributions:
He gets credited with Nine Hours to Rama paper, which is false.
There's been confusion with No way out. Bass just did the insert, Paul
Rand the I sht, (and very large paper), can't recall right now the
name of the other designer who did title card, half sheet and 3 sht.
On 25 Nov 2008, at 01:18, Richard Halegua Comic Art wrote:
yes and another possibility is that the 1 sheet - which is the only
poster of the title that has a different art - can be both by Peak
and Bass
Peak's face art & Bass' cells bars & birds
in other words, a "Saul Bass design"
but looking at the art I don't think there can be any doubt that
Lancaster's face on the 1 sheet is by Peak - though it isn't the
exact face on the other posters - at least by looking at photos. I
only have a 1 sheet so I can't match anything here
a separate question though.. are all other "Bass attributed" posters
for Otto Preminger films?
if so, why should anyone think Bass had any connection to this poster?
Rich=========
At 04:30 PM 11/24/2008, Richard Evans wrote:
The head in the I sht is the exact same head as in the window card
isn't it?
One thing that made sense about the theory that the 1 sht was Bass/
Peak is that the head looks like it's by a different designer and
been plonked on.
Mostly he was lucky, a lot of his best work got away with being
pure design, Vertigo, Anatomy, Bonjour Tristesse, Love in the
Afternoon etc
Though MWTGA suffered by having heads in it, apart from the 6 sht
design.
Don't know where that theory came from, about Bass, whether
assumption, sales technique or whether it was based in fact at all.
Could be I guess, (without that head) but could also easily be
someone influenced.
Seen Bass credited as doing the titles, not positive on that though.
Cheers,
Rich
On 24 Nov 2008, at 23:01, Richard Halegua Comic Art wrote:
oh.. just looked at the Birdman 1sh.. yes black blots, but if you
examine the face of lancaster and examine the wc image.. there is
a lot of similarity
At 02:01 PM 11/24/2008, Dave Rosen wrote:
I, for one, would love to find out who did those RKO posters. The
late 40s, early 50s RKO 1-sheets are among the most attractive US
1-sheets ever, IMHO. It would be nice to put artists' names to
this beautiful artwork
Dave
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----- Original Message -----
From: Phil Edwards
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 8:07 AM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] One sheet for Birdman of Alcatraz
http://www.bobpeak.com/artpage.cfm?artid=33
While BIRDMAN is listed, there are no examples and it falls very
early in his film poster career, so he may have done the WC, but
not any other key art that was used.
No one ever mentions that the famous Brando with sponge key art
for the German APOCALYPSE NOW by Peak is flopped - his siganture
is there, but is back to front.
As for not listing artists unless signed, there are exceptions -
such as Amsel's international art for CHINATOWN used in Australia
(both as full colour and duotone second printings) and Germany.
The US paper on CHINATOWN is often attributed erroneously to
Amsel but isn't by him.
What about all the Reynold Brown art that's unsigned but is well
known and documented as by Brown, or Albert Kallis et al? Of
course studio/distributor art departments often added other
material to the key art (apart from credits and sometimes title)
of work by known artists.
Poster artists, with few exceptions such as Drew, Peak, Brown,
Kallis, etc.go almost completely unacknowledged - which
considering it's actually art that is being collected when one
collects movie posters does seem a little odd.
What artists, for example, did all those great RKO posters of the
40s and 50s?
Phil
----- Original Message -----
From: Bruce Hershenson
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:46 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] One sheet for Birdman of Alcatraz
Bob Peak did the window card, which is signed. All the other
posters are not like the window card, and I don't think Peak did
any of them.
I think it is likely Bob Peak told Dan Strebin he did some art
for Birdman of Alcatraz, and Dan misheard, or maybe Peak mis-
remembered.
In my database, I only use artists' names if the art is signed,
for this very reason. On Moon Over Miami, one of the one-sheets
is by Vargas, and the pressbook states that many of the other
posters were drawn in the Vargas style by other artists.
Bruce
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 12:36 AM, Richard Halegua Comic Art <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
Bob Peak told Dan Strebin he did this art
it does look like other art he was doing in the time period
At 10:30 PM 11/23/2008, you wrote:
Can somebody tell me who did the artwork on this poster?
Thanks, Channing Thomson
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