I would never refer to Mr Hershenson as "relatively well-known in the poster
community."  He is the standard for "known," I'd think.  "Relatively" aint
in it.

I don't see why anyone would have thought I was referring to him, but let me
confirm that I wasn't.  Though I've naturally heard the kind of criticisms
you would expect to hear about any - and I mean any - big fish in a pond
like ours, and though I have in the past criticized his overuse of
exclamation points, I have great respect for his acumen and his contribution
to the hobby; I use or refer to his site frequently; and I have never heard
a single verifiable criticism of his business practices where the rubber
meets the road - that is, honestly describing and professionally delivering
the goods to happy customers, and treating them well.  Everything else is
pretty much atmospherics or differences in taste or style.  So, a toast to
Mr. Hershenson!

However, I have never received a Christmas card from Mr Hershenson, and I'm
durned mad about it.

Finally, not that I really care much one way or the other, I still would
like to know why, in his own words, he's concerned about these "awful rule
changes," since he has nothing to do with eBay anymore, as we all know.  And
I'm still wondering how the prior great (?) rules would have protected him
against a wacko.

CK MacLeod Collectibles at ckmac.com <http://ckmac.com/>
Kymar's on eBay <http://stores.ebay.com/Kymars-Stuff>

-----Original Message-----
From: MoPo List [mailto:[email protected]]on Behalf Of Bruce
Hershenson
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 12:55 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MOPO] A major problem continuing to face eBay sellers due to
misguided rule changes

"Mr. Hershenson feels a need to complain about "awful rule changes."  WTF
does he care?  Why is it his business? ...  I've had someone relatively
well-known in the poster community with whom I've never even done any
business and whom I hardly know decide to go on a personal campaign against
me."

Given the proximity of those statements (and since I am relatvely well-known
in the poster community, I just want to clarify that it is not ME who has
gone on a "personal campaign" against Mr. MacLeod.

I don't know him, and to the best of my knowledge have never had any
personal dealings with him, and have never commented on him or his sales in
any way, and I have now removed him from my Christmas card list.

Bruce
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 12:58 PM, CK MacLeod < [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
Your own post, Brek, answers your own complaint.  Ebay has unique value to
you, so you're "stuck" there.  I've been selling on eBay for several years,
and still do the bulk of my business there.  I never checked a buyer's
feedback before completing a sale.  Why would I waste my time?  The
percentage of dishonest buyers is very low - not just on eBay but
generally - though every seller has to decide on his or her own at what
point he or she needs to insure items for the sake of self-protection.

Meanwhile, months and months after having left eBay, Mr. Hershenson feels a
need to complain about "awful rule changes."  WTF does he care?  Why is it
his business?

Whether or not he or any of us could leave negative feedback on a "wacko,"
what reason is there to believe it would make any difference?  Sooner or
later, all dealers, on eBay or anywhere, has to deal with difficult or
outright fraudulent customers or with people who for one reason or another
decide they don't like us.  I've had someone relatively well-known in the
poster community with whom I've never even done any business and whom I
hardly know decide to go on a personal campaign against me.  It's just part
of doing business at all.

As for the monetary aspect, Paypal doesn't handle such disputes much
differently than "normal" credit card companies or even your bank in the
case of a stop payment.

CK MacLeod Collectibles at ckmac.com <http://ckmac.com/>
Kymar's on eBay <http://stores.ebay.com/Kymars-Stuff>

-----Original Message-----
From: MoPo List [mailto: [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> ]On Behalf Of Brek Anderson
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 07:19 PM
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [MOPO] A major problem continuing to face eBay sellers due to
misguided rule changes

I totally agree and wonder what the hell they are trying to do.

I wish I could leave eBay, but I don't know how or where to sell the wide
variety of items I sell for higher $. My last 5 sales have been a 2001 A
Space Od. 6 sheet for $1600, Stella guitar for 800, a train for 300, 7 45
records for $490, and a toaster for $50. You or Grey could have sold the
poster, but everything else I could not get those prices anywhere else. I
was lucky that all accepted the items with pos feedback, but where the buyer
can't get a negative I have to read their received feedback to get an idea
of their trustworthiness. What else can I do? I do shows already, but they
are expensive and hit and miss, I have space at a retail antique mall and
that is also hit and miss, I can't start my own auction site, so I guess I
am stuck unless someone has a brilliant idea they want to share.

Brek
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Hershenson" < [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> >
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 7:51:02 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain
Subject: [MOPO] A major problem continuing to face eBay sellers due to
misguided rule changes
When eBay changed the rules and made it that sellers couldn't leave
feedback, I predicted that some number of buyers would take advantage of
this and "blackmail" sellers into free items or discounts, using the thread
of negatives as a club.

That was one of the reasons I decided to leave forever, and why no longer
sell there.

Before I could "get out of Dodge" completely, so wacko Italian buyer ordered
10 cheap items for around $100 total, and he asked for them to be sent via
uninsured Airmail. I e-mailed him that if they somehow were lost it would be
HE who was responsible for the loss, and that if he wanted ME to be
responsible, he would have to send them insured.

He replied back that he wanted uninsured, and I sent the items, and a month
later, he put in a PayPal claim saying the items never arrived, and he also
left 10 negatives on eBay (without contacting me in any way).

I disputed the PayPal claim, showing the items were sent, and showing the
e-mails where he requested uninsured and accepted responsibility.

Of course, PayPal ruled against me and seized the money from my account and
refunded him, and of course the 10 negatives still stand.

Now these awful eBay and PayPal rules give terrible buyers like these
complete power over sellers, and for what purpose? Look at this guy's
feedback:
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=almightyblue&;
ftab=AllFeedback
<http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=almightyblue
&ftab=AllFeedback>

Even with all this great "protection" eBay now has, this guy hardly ever
buys anything and has quit buying for months. So WHO do these awful rule
changes benefit, and is this not a major reason in why eBay continues to
circle the drain?

Bruce
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