Good response! In my own words, I simply noticed that because I received those ten negs near the end of my eBay career, my feedback will soon look simply dreadful (10 negs vs 300 positives).
That got my blood boiling over what that jerk did to me, so I posted about a year old event. As to what I could have done under the old rules, I could not have gotten my money back, but I could have left ten negs on him, which would have warned the world to not let him bid (although he could then have simply abandoned that ID and started another). I am glad eBay is working out for you. It makes sense that as a fair number of sellers leave, there are more sales for those who remain (assuming of course the buyers are not leaving in proportion to the sellers). And I can state that I too have never heard a single bad word about Mr. MacLeod, and given that I am relatively well-known in the poster community I would have thought that those nasty rumors would have made it my way. But I learned long ago there is a huge amount of jealousy in collectibles, so I would surely have ignored them. Bruce On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 4:02 PM, CK MacLeod <[email protected]> wrote: > I would *never* refer to Mr Hershenson as "relatively well-known in the > poster community." He is the standard for "known," I'd think. "Relatively" > aint in it. > > > > I don't see why anyone would have thought I was referring to him, but let > me confirm that I wasn't. Though I've naturally heard the kind of > criticisms you would expect to hear about any - and I mean *any* - big > fish in a pond like ours, and though I have in the past criticized his > overuse of exclamation points, I have great respect for his acumen and his > contribution to the hobby; I use or refer to his site frequently; and I have > never heard a single verifiable criticism of his business practices where > the rubber meets the road - that is, honestly describing and professionally > delivering the goods to happy customers, and treating them well. Everything > else is pretty much atmospherics or differences in taste or style. So, a > toast to Mr. Hershenson! > > > > However, I have never received a Christmas card from Mr Hershenson, and I'm > durned mad about it. > > > > Finally, not that I really care much one way or the other, I still would > like to know why, in his own words, he's concerned about these "awful rule > changes," since he has nothing to do with eBay anymore, as we all know. And > I'm still wondering how the prior great (?) rules would have protected him > against a wacko. > > > > *CK MacLeod Collectibles at ckmac.com* <http://ckmac.com/> > > *Kymar's on eBay <http://stores.ebay.com/Kymars-Stuff>* > > > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* MoPo List [mailto:[email protected]]*on Behalf Of *Bruce > Hershenson > *Sent:* Sunday, June 14, 2009 12:55 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [MOPO] A major problem continuing to face eBay sellers due > to misguided rule changes > > > > "Mr. Hershenson feels a need to complain about "awful rule changes." WTF > does he care? Why is it his business? ... I've had someone relatively > well-known in the poster community with whom I've never even done any > business and whom I hardly know decide to go on a personal campaign against > me." > > > > Given the proximity of those statements (and since I am relatvely > well-known in the poster community, I just want to clarify that it is not ME > who has gone on a "personal campaign" against Mr. MacLeod. > > > > I don't know him, and to the best of my knowledge have never had any > personal dealings with him, and have never commented on him or his sales in > any way, and I have now removed him from my Christmas card list. > > > > Bruce > > On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 12:58 PM, CK MacLeod <[email protected]> wrote: > > Your own post, Brek, answers your own complaint. Ebay has unique value to > you, so you're "stuck" there. I've been selling on eBay for several years, > and still do the bulk of my business there. I never checked a buyer's > feedback before completing a sale. Why would I waste my time? The > percentage of dishonest buyers is very low - not just on eBay but generally > - though every seller has to decide on his or her own at what point he or > she needs to insure items for the sake of self-protection. > > > > Meanwhile, months and months after having left eBay, Mr. Hershenson feels a > need to complain about "awful rule changes." WTF does he care? Why is it > his business? > > > > Whether or not he or any of us could leave negative feedback on a "wacko," > what reason is there to believe it would make any difference? Sooner or > later, all dealers, on eBay or anywhere, has to deal with difficult or > outright fraudulent customers or with people who for one reason or another > decide they don't like us. I've had someone relatively well-known in the > poster community with whom I've never even done any business and whom I > hardly know decide to go on a personal campaign against me. It's just part > of doing business at all. > > > > As for the monetary aspect, Paypal doesn't handle such disputes much > differently than "normal" credit card companies or even your bank in the > case of a stop payment. > > > > *CK MacLeod Collectibles at ckmac.com* <http://ckmac.com/> > > *Kymar's on eBay <http://stores.ebay.com/Kymars-Stuff>* > > > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* MoPo List [mailto:[email protected]]*on Behalf Of *Brek > Anderson > *Sent:* Saturday, June 13, 2009 07:19 PM > *To:* [email protected] > > *Subject:* Re: [MOPO] A major problem continuing to face eBay sellers due > to misguided rule changes > > > > I totally agree and wonder what the hell they are trying to do. > > > > I wish I could leave eBay, but I don't know how or where to sell the wide > variety of items I sell for higher $. My last 5 sales have been a 2001 A > Space Od. 6 sheet for $1600, Stella guitar for 800, a train for 300, 7 45 > records for $490, and a toaster for $50. You or Grey could have sold the > poster, but everything else I could not get those prices anywhere else. I > was lucky that all accepted the items with pos feedback, but where the buyer > can't get a negative I have to read their received feedback to get an idea > of their trustworthiness. What else can I do? I do shows already, but they > are expensive and hit and miss, I have space at a retail antique mall and > that is also hit and miss, I can't start my own auction site, so I guess I > am stuck unless someone has a brilliant idea they want to share. > > > > Brek > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bruce Hershenson" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 7:51:02 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain > Subject: [MOPO] A major problem continuing to face eBay sellers due to > misguided rule changes > > When eBay changed the rules and made it that sellers couldn't leave > feedback, I predicted that some number of buyers would take advantage of > this and "blackmail" sellers into free items or discounts, using the thread > of negatives as a club. > > > > That was one of the reasons I decided to leave forever, and why no longer > sell there. > > > > Before I could "get out of Dodge" completely, so wacko Italian buyer > ordered 10 cheap items for around $100 total, and he asked for them to be > sent via uninsured Airmail. I e-mailed him that if they somehow were lost it > would be HE who was responsible for the loss, and that if he wanted ME to be > responsible, he would have to send them insured. > > > > He replied back that he wanted uninsured, and I sent the items, and a month > later, he put in a PayPal claim saying the items never arrived, and he also > left 10 negatives on eBay (without contacting me in any way). > > > > I disputed the PayPal claim, showing the items were sent, and showing the > e-mails where he requested uninsured and accepted responsibility. > > > > Of course, PayPal ruled against me and seized the money from my account and > refunded him, and of course the 10 negatives still stand. > > > > Now these awful eBay and PayPal rules give terrible buyers like these > complete power over sellers, and for what purpose? Look at this guy's > feedback: > > > http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=almightyblue&ftab=AllFeedback > > > > Even with all this great "protection" eBay now has, this guy hardly ever > buys anything and has quit buying for months. So *WHO* do these awful rule > changes benefit, and is this not a major reason in why eBay continues to > circle the drain? > > > > Bruce > > Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com > > ___________________________________________________________________ > > How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List > > Send a message addressed to: [email protected] > > In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L > > The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. > > Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com > > ___________________________________________________________________ > > How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List > > Send a message addressed to: [email protected] > > In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L > > The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. > > Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com > > ___________________________________________________________________ > > How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List > > Send a message addressed to: [email protected] > > In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L > > The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. > > > > Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com > > ___________________________________________________________________ > > How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List > > Send a message addressed to: [email protected] > > In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L > > The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. > Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com > ___________________________________________________________________ How to > UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: > [email protected] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF > MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. > > Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___________________________________________________________________ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [email protected] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
