Thanks for the voice of reason and clarity, Jim.
Jeff
On Aug 23, 2009, at 3:53 PM, James Richard wrote:
Aw, c'mon guys... of course Ebay wants to control everything about
its auction site. If any of us owned Ebay we would want to do the
same -- business is business. The things people are complaining
about are hardly "latest changes" -- this was all old news back in
1998 when I first started selling on Ebay. Even at that point they
would not allow a new username to be registered with a .dot com in
it and it was *always* against Ebay policy guidelines for Ebay
bidders and buyers to contact each other to try and do a deal off
outside of the Ebay system. Back then, their system was so
transparent (accidentally, not by design or intent) that they
didn't really have any way of preventing it, and so it happened a
lot. And I mean a lot. I did it, so did most others who were around
back then. Ebay finally started actively campaigning against off-
site transactions in 2000 and by 2003 had made it much more
difficult for bidders and buyers to get together outside of the
Ebay system. But you can still do it today: All you have to do is
send the seller a question using the Ebay mail system -- and don't
check the "hide my address from the seller" box -- and indicate in
the message that you want to talk about something and that the
seller is "welcome" to reply to you "personally". If seller is so
inclined he will get what you mean and send you a reply to your
private address with his private address and then you reply to him
-- viola, you're both doing business off the Ebay site.
-- JR
Bruce Hershenson wrote:
It's worse than you know! They not only are trying to move ALL
communication (even after-sale communication) to being forced
through their own system, but they want to make it a "crime" to
contact biders or buyers any other way than through their system!
I USED to think having a dotcom user ID (emovieposter.com) meant
something, but now it really doesn't. And it is just a matter of
time before they take those away too.
It is like living in a ghetto 100 years ago. First the authorities
take one "right" away from the ghetto dwellers, and they say,
"well, we can deal with that" and then they take away another, and
another, and another, until finally no one has any rights left at
all,
Bruce
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Helmut Hamm <[email protected]>
wrote:
I second Kirby on this one. I used to throw in bids for good
measure, just to have my user-id show. Fortunately, I registered
back in '99, when
filmposter(dot!!!)net was still allowed... I stopped doing this
since they are hiding the bidder names.
Did you notice, that at some point eBay has made it completely
impossible to contact a seller directly after you won an item? No
more seller's email address, and even retracking
contact data from eBay will give you the address and (sometimes) a
phone number, but no email contact.
Nowadays, Big Brother eBay wants to monitor ANYTHING.
Maybe it's just me, but I find this extremely annoying.
Helmut
Am 23.08.2009 um 17:42 schrieb Kirby McDaniel:
Not missing a thing. And bring back the transparency of the
entire system - where you can see the buyers, contact them etc.
See who is bidding
against you etc. Sure, it might bring some communication between
the members, result in more than a few off-site deals, but it
would be
better and probably more remunerative for ebay than the present
morass.
K.
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