" I would hope that the auction houses and dealers who may have also
inadvertantly offered these pieces as genuine would eagerly welcome this
kind of a "master list" so the pieces can begin to be picked up in this
train wreck within the hobby."

Please don't post like this again, especially while I am drinking something.
Now I have to clean all the milk I sprayed off the monitor.

" eagerly welcome this kind of a "'master list'"!

That's a hoot. How about "would rather have six inch needles plunged into
their eyes rather than admit to ANYTHING"?

bRUCE

On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Steven F. Poole <[email protected]> wrote:

>  Hi Sean-
>   Thanks for your reply.   I need to take the card under a strong light and
> examine with a magnifying glass.
>    Something you said in this makes all of the sense in the world to me.
> *If the restorer who made these ever decides to make a list of the titles
> he made and the quanities it would certainly help in removing the fakes from
> the market and easing the fears of collectors like*
> *yourself.*
> *     *This really would be a tremendous aid  for collectors in getting to
> the root of at least this particular venture in fakery.  It would indeed
> eliminate much of the suspicion and doubts.   I would hope that the auction
> houses and dealers who may have also inadvertantly offered these pieces as
> genuine would eagerly welcome this kind of a "master list" so the pieces can
> begin to be picked up in this train wreck within the hobby.   Of course,
> that would be an admission of guilt in the alleged fraud but it sure would
> be a step toward redemption!
>
>     Steve
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Sean Linkenback <[email protected]>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 06, 2009 2:29 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [MOPO] Where to send Universal material to authenticate?
>
> Steve,
> I don't know where or how you understood that all the fakes are supposedly
> paperbacked, but nothing could be further from the truth.  While the
> one-sheets and three-sheets are linenbacked, all the smaller sizes (halves,
> inserts, and lobbies) are NOT paperbacked - though they are all restored.
> Abbott & Costello Meet Frankenstein itself as a title is not out of the
> clear, as I have seen a fake Title Card on this film in person. I have not
> seen any scene card as of yet, but that doesn't mean anything one way or the
> other.
> If the restorer who made these ever decides to make a list of the titles he
> made and the quantities it would certainly help in removing the fakes from
> the market and easing the fears of collectors like yourself.
> Of course it is certainly possible that a card can be 60+ years old and
> still be as fresh as the day it was produced.  Look at some of the beautiful
> lobby sets Todd is offering for sale as an example.  I myself have even had
> near perfect mint cards from Cabinet of Dr. Caligari, and those lobbies are
> nearly 90 years old.
> The main question is - how good do you feel about your ability to spot
> restoration?  If you have a good eye for restoration and your lobby appears
> to be completely unrestored, then it is most likely original.
>
> Sean
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Steven F. Poole <[email protected]>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 06, 2009 2:42 PM
> *Subject:* [MOPO] Where to send Universal material to authenticate?
>
> Hi all-
>   A month or so ago, after the whole Universal horror scam scandal broke, I
> contacted Profiles regarding a lot that I had purchased in their spring
> auction.   It is a 1948 lobby card for ABBOTT AND COSTELLO MEET FRANKENSTEIN
> and is the card of the boys discovering the Monster in the packing crate (my
> favorite card from the set).
>    Naturally, I had a knee-jerk reaction to the fakes issue and checked the
> card out again closely.   It is presents as near mint with no backing.  I
> began to wonder about something that is supposeded to be 60+ years old and
> is, for lack of a better term, as "minty white" as could possiblyh be.  I
> did not know at the time  the scandal first broke that the alleged fakes are
> all apparently paper backed.   I called Profiles and met with a rather
> dismissive response that the "reproductionists" would not possibly have
> bothered with such a low-end card (although it hammered at almost $1000,
> including the premium which is just about where this card sells retail).
> At the time, I was somewhat reassured although felt as though the person I
> spoke with apparently representing Profiles on this issue really considered
> my card a small fish in their large pond and it was not worth pursuing any
> kind of authentication.
>     The Profiles rep. did say that if I  still had a doubt, I could send it
> to Poster Mountain to have it proclaimed authentic.
>      My question is, would a card like this have been indeed not  been ,
> for the alleged scammers, "worth their while" to fake?   Also, I have not
> really relished the idea of speaking with Profiles again but was wondering
> if  they are still utilizing Poster Mountain for authentication or using
> another source if I wanted it checked out.
>       Thanks in advance for any direction.
>
>       Steve
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