If by thicker you mean the thickness of a piece of notebook paper then yes.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Steven F. Poole 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 6:42 PM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Where to send Universal material to authenticate?


  Rich-
     Are they just a bit thicker than what seems normal?
     Steve
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Richard Halegua Comic Art & Movie Posters 
    To: [email protected] 
    Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 5:29 PM
    Subject: Re: [MOPO] Where to send Universal material to authenticate?


    Zeev

    the smaller sizes consisted of real posters - lc's, wc's, hs's, inserts - 
that had the front sanded down to remove the image
    then an inkjet or other copy was mounted to the front (sanded side)
    then each item was carefully restored to give it the appearance of an 
authentic card that was restored, thereby misdirecting your attention from the 
forgery

    Rich


    At 03:14 PM 10/6/2009, lobby card invasion wrote:

      Hello Sean
       
      Begging your indulgence.  Could you please clarify a couple of point?
       
      1.  "While the one-sheets and three-sheets are linenbacked, all the 
smaller sizes (halves, inserts, and lobbies) are NOT paperbacked - though they 
are all restored"
       
      'FAKES BEING RESTORED' , just doesn't sound right.  Is that really the 
best way to describe what is being done?
       
      2. If Window Cards can have their back layer removed during restoration, 
and re-mounted on acid free card stock, and if S2 Art prints can be sanded down 
to paper thickness, and then paperbacked or linenbacked, then why couldn't a 
fake lobby card be produced by using paperbacking?
       
      Zeev
       
       

        ----- Original Message ----- 

        From: Sean Linkenback 

        To: [email protected] 

        Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 3:29 PM

        Subject: Re: [MOPO] Where to send Universal material to authenticate?


        Steve,

        I don't know where or how you understood that all the fakes are 
supposedly paperbacked, but nothing could be further from the truth.  While the 
one-sheets and three-sheets are linenbacked, all the smaller sizes (halves, 
inserts, and lobbies) are NOT paperbacked - though they are all restored.

        Abbott & Costello Meet Frankenstein itself as a title is not out of the 
clear, as I have seen a fake Title Card on this film in person. I have not seen 
any scene card as of yet, but that doesn't mean anything one way or the other.  

        If the restorer who made these ever decides to make a list of the 
titles he made and the quantities it would certainly help in removing the fakes 
from the market and easing the fears of collectors like yourself.

        Of course it is certainly possible that a card can be 60+ years old and 
still be as fresh as the day it was produced.  Look at some of the beautiful 
lobby sets Todd is offering for sale as an example.  I myself have even had 
near perfect mint cards from Cabinet of Dr. Caligari, and those lobbies are 
nearly 90 years old.

        The main question is - how good do you feel about your ability to spot 
restoration?  If you have a good eye for restoration and your lobby appears to 
be completely unrestored, then it is most likely original.


          
        Sean


          


          ----- Original Message ----- 

          From: Steven F. Poole 

          To: [email protected] 

          Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 2:42 PM

          Subject: [MOPO] Where to send Universal material to authenticate?


          Hi all-

            A month or so ago, after the whole Universal horror scam scandal 
broke, I contacted Profiles regarding a lot that I had purchased in their 
spring auction.   It is a 1948 lobby card for ABBOTT AND COSTELLO MEET 
FRANKENSTEIN and is the card of the boys discovering the Monster in the packing 
crate (my favorite card from the set).   

             Naturally, I had a knee-jerk reaction to the fakes issue and 
checked the card out again closely.   It is presents as near mint with no 
backing.  I began to wonder about something that is supposeded to be 60+ years 
old and is, for lack of a better term, as "minty white" as could possiblyh be.  
I did not know at the time  the scandal first broke that the alleged fakes are 
all apparently paper backed.   I called Profiles and met with a rather 
dismissive response that the "reproductionists" would not possibly have 
bothered with such a low-end card (although it hammered at almost $1000, 
including the premium which is just about where this card sells retail).   At 
the time, I was somewhat reassured although felt as though the person I spoke 
with apparently representing Profiles on this issue really considered my card a 
small fish in their large pond and it was not worth pursuing any kind of 
authentication.

              The Profiles rep. did say that if I  still had a doubt, I could 
send it to Poster Mountain to have it proclaimed authentic.

               My question is, would a card like this have been indeed not  
been , for the alleged scammers, "worth their while" to fake?   Also, I have 
not really relished the idea of speaking with Profiles again but was wondering 
if  they are still utilizing Poster Mountain for authentication or using 
another source if I wanted it checked out.

                Thanks in advance for any direction.


            
                Steve

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