Sounds like there are parallels to the real estate bubble of a few years
ago.

Or the Greater Fool theory. Once a few of the "big players" decide to back
off, prices can go down just as quick as they go up.

If the people buying these items have a true love of them, that's a healthy
hobby. But when the "investor types" buy because they think they are going
to sell at a huge profit in a few years, it's a recipe for disaster.

Time will tell.

Bruce

On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Richard Halegua Comic Art <
[email protected]> wrote:

>  no, it's never been really soft and Heritage didn't do anything to change
> the field's direction
> but it's a classic bubble hobby.. they keep thinking it only goes up-up-up
> and if you read the comic boards, that is the general sentiment. Anyone who
> challenges that thought is roundly admonished by the complete majority of
> the dealers & collectors - even though the number of comic stores has
> decreased by 75% (or more) during the last 15 years and publishers are
> printing less comics.
> As a matter of fact, I had dinner with a longtime friend who used to be one
> of the top five comic distributors and we discussed it. there may be less
> than 15% of the number of comic stores there were in 1990, but the only
> company that could show the proof is Diamond and they won't tell. As a
> matter of fact, they keep trumpeting the hobby.
>
> Sean and I have been involved in that hobby for 45+ years (in my case. 40+
> as a dealer) and 25+ (in Sean's case)
> seeing as both of us have more faith in movie posters - I think that says
> alot about the hobby and Bruce as well was a big person in the hobby in the
> 70s. Moreover, when you go to comic conventions, there is almost nobody
> under 35 except longtime dealers and a very tiny % of collectors. By and
> large, the great population of older collectors has disappeared as prices
> have increased, and so - the likelihood of golden age books from third-world
> publishers becoming non-sought-after issues is increasing. Surprisingly, the
> large part of the hobby dismisses this as well, which is proof that the
> hobby is populated by the perfect people - those who wear blinders where
> money is concerned..
>
> Rich
>
>
>
> At 01:57 PM 4/3/2010, Kevin Conway wrote:
>
> I am no comic book expert, but was once a moderate collector.  Wasn't the
> comic book market quite soft until Heritage entered the market in a "big
> way" and heavily promoted the comic book industry about 7-10 years ago ??
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Halegua Comic Art
> Sent: Apr 3, 2010 3:07 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [MOPO] An excellent thought provoking article: Ten Signposts
> to Identify Endangered Collecting Categories
>
> it's a fantastic article that reports things we as longtime dealers already
> know and that comic book collectors need to examine
>
> in comics right now, there is much talk about Action comics #1 CGC 8.0
> grade sold for $1mil, then Heritage sold Detective #27 8.0 for $1,075,000
> and just this week Action #1 8.5 sold for $1.5mil. Because comic collectors
> seem (to me) purposely ignorant that a reckoning is coming to the greater
> part of the hobby, they all point to these sales & say "the comics hobby is
> super-healthy.. prices will never go down". Prices in comics don't reflect
> decreases because both dealers and the publishers of the price guide are in
> bed together on the one hand, and they have a stranglehold on the hobby off
> the other hand. The fans are also complicit in this sham as they 1) go for
> it hook-line-and sinker & 2) they choose to ignore the obvious signals.
>
> Action Comics #1 will always sell for big bucks. It is after all the single
> most important comic book there is. It has interest outside the comic
> collecting hobby and most copies over time will find their way into museums
> where they will remain on permanent display. Action comics #2, 102, or
> 502.... sorry... down the road, these books will be collected by very few as
> the entire comics hobby will continue to deflate over many long years until
> almost no-one collects them, with the exception of the top items like Action
> #1, Spiderman #1 and the like.
>
> Movie posters will no doubt follow them in great part (especially as
> posters themselves stop being printed in favor of digital displays).
> The only difference in posters is that, unlike a comic book, a movie poster
> is likened to an artwork, can be framed and displayed in a home, while it is
> unlikely that Coo-Coo Comics #1 will ever get displayed for company to view
> when they come over for dinner
>
> that doesn't mean that all posters will be collected.. Sadly, the
> collecting of posters to the great majority will focus on the top titles,
> the top stars and the big hits.. Much of the rest will just fade away.
>
> Rich
>
>
> At 08:28 AM 4/3/2010, Bruce Hershenson wrote:
>
> Ten Signposts to Identify Endangered Collecting Categories
> by Harry Rinker (03/16/10).
>
>
> http://www.worthpoint.com/blog-entry/ten-signposts-identify-endangered-collecting-categories?utm_source=WorthPoint+Insider+List&utm_campaign=cf94b34d78-insider-7&utm_medium=email&mc_cid=cf94b34d78&mc_eid=9c7686e1e6
>
> Does it apply to movie posters? Comic Books?
>
> Bruce
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