hahahahahahahaha
good one.
Ted
--- On Thu, 4/15/10, Richard Auras <ilovefi...@flash.net> wrote:
From: Richard Auras <ilovefi...@flash.net>
Subject: Re: [MOPO] My expirence with Rich tonight
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Date: Thursday, April 15, 2010, 10:57 AM
Maybe the guy was bidding while rolling nickels from his piggie bank. Every
time he completed a roll, he upped his bid by $2. It might have been faster if
he was rolling quarters but he had to save those for the laundramat.
Rick www.ilovefilms.com
From: Phil Edwards <p...@cinemarts.com>
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Sent: Thu, April 15, 2010 9:26:34 AM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] My expirence with Rich tonight
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Doug - Just so I understand this.... you were high bidder and this guy came in
near the end and bid multiple times in $2 increments until he bested your top
bid.... and won the item or, as an extended auction format, you kept bidding
against him raising his ante and he just kept upping you by $2 increments, and
won the item?
I'm hard-pressed to see how it can be interpreted as shilling (as others have
noted, he won the item, defeating the usual object of the shill bidder) or even
assumed as such.
I think all of us who have sold on eBay and other auctions over several years
can recount stories of nutty bid histories that as the seller we know aren't
shilled but just don't make any sense... or seem to, except that two or more
people really wanted that thing. I had two bidders slug it out over a
CALIFORNIA DOLLS lobby set on eBay a few years ago and it ended up at $500.
Utterly bizarre.
ROBINSON CRUSOE ON MARS is a title that's picked up a little speed in the last
couple of years.
If one can't snipe on MPB (can one?) and they have extended format auctions (do
they?) then one has to resort to the hammer blow high bid right at the end that
the guy who's diddling away at $2 increments simply can't beat.
I just don't get the logic , Doug, that makes you immediately think that $2
incremental bids in the last few minutes of an auction means a shill.
Regards,
Phil E.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Waldman
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 11:24 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] My expirence with Rich tonight
It's one thing to think an auction has a shill bidder, it's another thing to
post your thoughts on MOPO. You are after all only guessing that this auction
had a shill bidder. Which I doubt by the way.
If this auction had a shill bidder, he was a crappy at it because he won.
John W
From: Douglas Ball <deb...@columbus.rr.com>
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Sent: Thu, April 15, 2010 6:35:39 AM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] My expirence with Rich tonight
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I've bid on email auctions now for the last 11 years almost daily. Also every
time a new bidder to the system may bid this way until they get the hang of
things, but one thing they almost never do is drive an item up that high, one
small amount at a time... a lack of trust. Once they are relaxed with the
auctions and the sellers they will then start to set reserves for themselves.
This bidder (if a true bidder), only objective was to drive the price of this
poster up hoping that I would go even higher. I would be very surprised if they
make a payment for that poster. I doubt that anyone will ever know...
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: Zeev Drach
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 11:15 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] My expirence with Rich tonight
I don’t think a shill bidder would be so obvious as to bid 27 times at $2
increments.
Zeev
From: MoPo List [mailto:mop...@listserv.american.edu] On Behalf Of Douglas Ball
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 10:24 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: [MOPO] My expirence with Rich tonight
I just got done with and auction on Mopobid tonight that is and will leave a
sour taste and just might make me think twice in bidding on another auction in
the near future on Rich's auctions.
Tonight I bid on "Robinson Crusoe on Mars" 40x60. At 8:18 tonight a buyer with
the ID of samiam101 (0) feedback with approx. 2mins left in the auction. I came
in again at 8:27 almost missing the auction. I was high at 105.01. From that
bid until 9:05, that bidder bid 27 bids @ $2.00 per bid w/ 3 or 2m left in the
extended auction until the bidder finally won it for $161.10.
Now I'M like just about anyone else who takes loosing with winning, but in this
case I believe it was not a bidder who never bid on any auctions in the past,
but a shill bidder.
Since you can not view auctions that have ended on Rich's site unless you bid
or follow, I'm just curious how many others had an experience tonight with
samiam 101 with (0) feedback!
Doug
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