There's no oil company tie in at all, specifically. Dryden finds himself in the middle of a political mess and remarks that he wishes he'd stayed at home. Tony Hayward wants his "life back." Both are caught up in the unintended consequences of their "campaigns."
Of course, one can ask one self what were the Brits and the Turks tussling over in that film... K. On Jun 14, 2010, at 12:37 PM, lovenoir2 wrote: > I'm confused (or maybe im not remembering the scenes-- ahem). > > I dont recall oil companies (reckless or otherwise) or individuals > like bin Laden EVER being alluded to in LAWRENCE. > > Can you explain the "tie in" to those comments? > > -KL > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 8:05 AM, Kirby McDaniel <[email protected]> wrote: >> Adrian and MOPO, >> I did not mean to insult anyone and especially any of our >> British members by my posts. If any of this was taken by anyone as >> anything other than a rather bemused allusion to the scene in >> LAWRENCE let me correct the record here. Looking back on the thread, I can >> see >> how my comments to Adrian could be misinterpreted easily. I'm sorry >> for any misunderstanding that this post may have caused. >> Any serious thoughts I have about the spill, >> which is not a joke and which is a huge tragedy for the Gulf Coast, >> the area where I grew up, I would not choose >> to air on MOPO at all, but especially in a way intended to inflame members >> of the list or to create hard >> feelings over a serious matter that is way off topic. >> And yes, finally, I did misspell "blimey"! >> Kirby >> >> On Jun 14, 2010, at 2:03 AM, [email protected] wrote: >> >> Kirby, my acerbic little chum...your pun was noticed...it wasn't clever. >> >> Dense? Well I am not wrapped in my coccoon of American clay and making >> acidic remarks about a British company over a third owned by the US and I am >> not a US politician trying to make mid term election aspersions and shift >> the blame to anyone but good ol' Uncle Sam. >> >> And as for BP being reckless...Mmmm Exxon comes to mind, oh and Viet Nam and >> chasing after Weapons of Mass destruction in Iraq and now the futile actions >> in Afghanistan...and the UK is reckless enough to follow where many have >> not. (Yes we had a presence in Viet Nam allbeit unofficial). >> >> The UK remembers it's debt and Special Relationship to all those men who >> died on the Normandy beaches and we rise above the ridiculous comment by a >> two bit politician who promised so much but will deliver so little. >> >> Thankfully there are many in the US who have brains and understand the >> predicament. After an American crew/company using the oil rig BP has stepped >> up to the plate and will take on the job of repairing a mistake that wasn't >> in their control. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Richard Halegua Comic Art <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 22:32 >> Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT; BLIGH ME, GUVNOR >> >> oh cmon Kirby, "your reckless oil company"? >> what BP does has nothing to do with the British people >> some 38% is owned by Americans >> >> hey wait.... where did you get 27% the Kuwaitis?? >> 38% US ownership & 45% UK ownership is in itself 83% >> >> >> At 02:25 PM 6/13/2010, you wrote: >> >> Adrian, >> >> Your reckless little oil company is 27% owned by the Kuwaitis! I'm sure >> Osama Bin Lube is at the bottom of it (no pun intended) somewhere or >> another. >> >> We may take your 12% dividends and build a soccer stadium with it. >> >> K. >> >> >> On Jun 13, 2010, at 3:17 PM, [email protected] wrote: >> >> Thas More like it. >> >> I gather the Pres has apologised to us for the Brit bashing as BP is >> Anglo-American...Oil be coming round the mountain... >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Richard Halegua Comic Art <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 21:15 >> Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT; BLIGH ME, GUVNOR >> >> do you mean our >> >> B P >> r a >> i r >> t t >> i n >> s e >> h r >> s >> >> >> >> At 01:06 PM 6/13/2010, Kirby McDaniel wrote: >> >> Quite right; we can always learn something from our former owners! >> >> K. >> On Jun 13, 2010, at 2:28 PM, [email protected] wrote: >> >> Might I point out to our colonial cousins it is Blimey! Not Bligh Me. >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Richard Halegua Comic Art <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 20:26 >> Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT; BLIGH ME, GUVNOR >> >> I agree David >> >> Bridge on the River Kwai being a good example. No happy ending there >> >> >> At 11:38 AM 6/12/2010, David Kusumoto wrote: >> >> I have always felt that Bolt's screenplay in "Lawrence" is not just good, >> but spectacular. There's a reason why it remains in the top ten lists of >> the greatest films ever made. It is so far ahead of its time with its >> ambiguous portrait of Lawrence that it feels timeless and undated. In fact, >> the parts that linger on the visual majesty of the desert or the battle >> scenes sometimes drags down the pacing. I've always felt (and I know there >> is debate about this), that despite my love for Gregory Peck, who won Best >> Actor that year, that Peter O'Toole's performance in Lawrence is simply >> electric and drop-dead perfect. And what an ending! It disappoints many, >> but it is an anti-climax that is faithful to the integrity of where >> Lawrence's story HAD to go. Can you imagine some corn-ball U.S.-tinkering >> happy ending tacked on to make Lawrence's efforts uplifting and redemptive? >> >> A generalization, but I think the Brits have a knack for making wonderfully >> written films that - as I wrote last year - are masked when they're budgeted >> by American dollars and cast (e.g., Anthony Quinn, who was a major star here >> in 1962) to draw an American audience. Astoundingly, the country-of-origin >> and first printing of "Lawrence" is the U.S.A. like "Bridge over the River >> Kwai" (which was cast budgeted to include William Holden) - despite being >> thoroughly British in tone and sensibility. Hence my obsession with >> "country-of-origin" posters which I treat like first edition books >> regardless of less than attractive art. I'm bitter that the beginning of >> Carol Reed's "The Third Man" was butchered by Selznick when it was released >> in the U.S.; the British version is superior. But at least in the case of >> the wonderfully written "Third Man" -- the country-of-origin is rightfully >> the U.K. >> >> ________________________________ >> Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 11:57:20 -0500 >> From: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: OT; BLIGH ME, GUVNOR >> To: [email protected] >> >> I think Bolt started the screenplay for The Bounty, but had a stroke and the >> eventual film contains little of his original writing. >> >> I imagine the movie with a screenplay by the Bolt of the early 1960s, and it >> would have been wonderful. >> >> I first read the three novels by Charles Nordhoff and James Norman Hall >> (Mutiny on the Bounty, Men Against the Sea, and Pitcairn's Island) as a >> teen, and I know there is still a great series of movies (or an epic TV >> mini-series) waiting to be made of the entire story (only parts of which >> were addressed in the earlier versions). >> >> Bruce >> >> On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Kirby McDaniel <[email protected]> wrote: >> He also co-wrote the script for THE BOUNTY (1984), the mutiny on the HMS >> Bounty story, which David Lean had always wantedto film, but was never able >> to get financed. This film takes a fuller look at the BOUNTY epic, and is >> enjoyable enough, directed by Roger Donaldson. But one can only imagine >> that tale with the Lean camera and editing synergy and perfectionist >> sensibility. Maybe the financiers remembered all too well the MGM >> experience with the Brando version. I have always liked that version. LEAN >> went on to make A PASSAGE TO INDIA, a thoroughly wonderful film, in my >> opinion. I think that'sout on BLU - RAY now. >> >> K. On Jun 12, 2010, at 7:49 AM, Bruce Hershenson wrote: >> >> Robert Bolt, who wrote Lawrence, quickly followed with Doctor Zhivago, A Man >> for All Seasons (from his earlier play), and Ryan's Daughter, a pretty >> amazing string of wonderful screenplays. Of course he didn't manage to >> include a tagline as great as "Get off my lawn!" in any of them, but he did >> his best. Bruce On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 1:06 AM, Phil Edwards >> <[email protected]> wrote: Odd, we nearly always think of LAWRENCE in terms >> of its epic scope and spectacular visuals, but it has one of the most >> literate andprecise screenplays of almost any film I can think of. ----- >> Original Message ----- From: Kirby McDaniel To: [email protected] >> Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 2:06 PM Subject: [MOPO] OT; BLIGH ME, GUVNOR >> Tony Hayward: I am reminded of the wonderful line Claude Rains (Dryden) >> gets in LAWRENCE: >> >> Prince Feisal: You, I suspect, are chief architect of this compromise. What >> do you think? Mr. Dryden: Me, your Highness? 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