I'm confused (or maybe im not remembering the scenes-- ahem).

I dont recall oil companies (reckless or otherwise) or individuals
like bin Laden EVER being alluded to in LAWRENCE.

Can you explain the "tie in" to those comments?

-KL





On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 8:05 AM, Kirby McDaniel <[email protected]> wrote:
> Adrian and MOPO,
> I did not mean to insult anyone and especially any of our
> British members by my posts.  If any of  this was taken by anyone as
> anything other than a rather bemused allusion to the scene in
> LAWRENCE let me correct the record here.  Looking back on the thread,  I can
> see
> how my comments to Adrian could be misinterpreted easily.   I'm sorry
> for any misunderstanding that this post may have caused.
> Any serious thoughts I have about the spill,
> which is not a joke and which is a huge tragedy for the Gulf Coast,
> the area where I grew up, I would not choose
> to air on MOPO at all, but especially in a way intended to inflame members
> of the list or to create hard
> feelings over a serious matter that is way off topic.
> And yes, finally, I did misspell "blimey"!
> Kirby
>
> On Jun 14, 2010, at 2:03 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>
> Kirby, my acerbic little chum...your pun was noticed...it wasn't clever.
>
> Dense? Well I am not wrapped in my coccoon of American clay and making
> acidic remarks about a British company over a third owned by the US and I am
> not a US politician trying to make mid term election aspersions and shift
> the blame to anyone but good ol' Uncle Sam.
>
> And as for BP being reckless...Mmmm Exxon comes to mind, oh and Viet Nam and
> chasing after Weapons of Mass destruction in Iraq and now the futile actions
> in Afghanistan...and the UK is reckless enough to follow where many have
> not. (Yes we had a presence in Viet Nam allbeit unofficial).
>
> The UK remembers it's debt and Special Relationship to all those men who
> died on the Normandy beaches and we rise above the ridiculous comment by a
> two bit politician who promised so much but will deliver so little.
>
> Thankfully there are many in the US who have brains and understand the
> predicament. After an American crew/company using the oil rig BP has stepped
> up to the plate and will take on the job of repairing a mistake that wasn't
> in their control.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Halegua Comic Art <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 22:32
> Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT; BLIGH ME, GUVNOR
>
> oh cmon Kirby, "your reckless oil company"?
> what BP does has nothing to do with the British people
> some 38% is owned by Americans
>
> hey wait.... where did you get 27% the Kuwaitis??
> 38% US ownership & 45% UK ownership is in itself 83%
>
>
> At 02:25 PM 6/13/2010, you wrote:
>
> Adrian,
>
> Your reckless little oil company is 27% owned by the Kuwaitis!  I'm sure
> Osama Bin Lube is at the bottom of it (no pun intended) somewhere or
> another.
>
> We may take your 12% dividends and build a soccer stadium with it.
>
> K.
>
>
> On Jun 13, 2010, at 3:17 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>
> Thas More like it.
>
> I gather the Pres has apologised to us for the Brit bashing as BP is
> Anglo-American...Oil be coming round the mountain...
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Halegua Comic Art <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 21:15
> Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT; BLIGH ME, GUVNOR
>
> do you mean our
>
> B P
> r  a
> i  r
> t  t
> i  n
> s e
> h  r
>    s
>
>
>
> At 01:06 PM 6/13/2010, Kirby McDaniel wrote:
>
> Quite right; we can always learn something from our former owners!
>
> K.
> On Jun 13, 2010, at 2:28 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>
> Might I point out to our colonial cousins it is Blimey! Not Bligh Me.
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Halegua Comic Art <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 20:26
> Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT; BLIGH ME, GUVNOR
>
> I agree David
>
> Bridge on the River Kwai being a good example. No happy ending there
>
>
> At 11:38 AM 6/12/2010, David Kusumoto wrote:
>
> I have always felt that Bolt's screenplay in "Lawrence" is not just good,
> but spectacular.  There's a reason why it remains in the top ten lists of
> the greatest films ever made.  It is so far ahead of its time with its
> ambiguous portrait of Lawrence that it feels timeless and undated.  In fact,
> the parts that linger on the visual majesty of the desert or the battle
> scenes sometimes drags down the pacing.  I've always felt (and I know there
> is debate about this), that despite my love for Gregory Peck, who won Best
> Actor that year, that Peter O'Toole's performance in Lawrence is simply
> electric and drop-dead perfect.  And what an ending!  It disappoints many,
> but it is an anti-climax that is faithful to the integrity of where
> Lawrence's story HAD to go.  Can you imagine some corn-ball U.S.-tinkering
> happy ending tacked on to make Lawrence's efforts uplifting and redemptive?
>
> A generalization, but I think the Brits have a knack for making wonderfully
> written films that - as I wrote last year - are masked when they're budgeted
> by American dollars and cast (e.g., Anthony Quinn, who was a major star here
> in 1962) to draw an American audience.  Astoundingly, the country-of-origin
> and first printing of "Lawrence" is the U.S.A. like "Bridge over the River
> Kwai" (which was cast budgeted to include William Holden) - despite being
> thoroughly British in tone and sensibility.  Hence my obsession with
> "country-of-origin" posters which I treat like first edition books
> regardless of less than attractive art.  I'm bitter that the beginning of
> Carol Reed's "The Third Man" was butchered by Selznick when it was released
> in the U.S.; the British version is superior.  But at least in the case of
> the wonderfully written "Third Man" -- the country-of-origin is rightfully
> the U.K.
>
> ________________________________
> Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 11:57:20 -0500
> From: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: OT; BLIGH ME, GUVNOR
> To: [email protected]
>
> I think Bolt started the screenplay for The Bounty, but had a stroke and the
> eventual film contains little of his original writing.
>
> I imagine the movie with a screenplay by the Bolt of the early 1960s, and it
> would have been wonderful.
>
> I first read the three novels by Charles Nordhoff and James Norman Hall
> (Mutiny on the Bounty, Men Against the Sea, and Pitcairn's Island) as a
> teen, and I know there is still a great series of movies (or an epic TV
> mini-series) waiting to be made of the entire story (only parts of which
> were addressed in the earlier versions).
>
> Bruce
>
> On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Kirby McDaniel <[email protected]> wrote:
> He also co-wrote the script for THE BOUNTY (1984), the mutiny on the HMS
> Bounty story, which David Lean had always wantedto film, but was never able
> to get financed. This film takes a fuller look at the BOUNTY epic, and is
> enjoyable enough, directed by Roger Donaldson.  But one can only imagine
> that tale with the Lean camera and editing synergy and perfectionist
> sensibility.  Maybe the financiers remembered all too well the MGM
> experience with the Brando version.  I have always liked that version. LEAN
> went on to make A PASSAGE TO INDIA, a thoroughly wonderful film, in my
> opinion.  I think that'sout on BLU - RAY now.
>
> K. On Jun 12, 2010, at 7:49 AM, Bruce Hershenson wrote:
>
> Robert Bolt, who wrote Lawrence, quickly followed with Doctor Zhivago, A Man
> for All Seasons (from his earlier play), and Ryan's Daughter, a pretty
> amazing string of wonderful screenplays. Of course he didn't manage to
> include a tagline as great as "Get off my lawn!" in any of them, but he did
> his best. Bruce On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 1:06 AM, Phil Edwards
> <[email protected]> wrote: Odd, we nearly always think of LAWRENCE in terms
> of its epic scope and spectacular visuals, but it has one of the most
> literate andprecise screenplays of almost any film I can think of. -----
> Original Message ----- From: Kirby McDaniel To: [email protected]
> Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 2:06 PM Subject: [MOPO] OT; BLIGH ME, GUVNOR
> Tony Hayward:  I am reminded of the wonderful line Claude Rains (Dryden)
> gets in LAWRENCE:
>
> Prince Feisal: You, I suspect, are chief architect of this compromise. What
> do you think? Mr. Dryden: Me, your Highness? On the whole, I wish I'd stayed
> in Tunbridge Wells.
> http://www.theonion.com/articles/massive-flow-of-bullshit-continues-to-gush-from-bp,17564/
>
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