Kirby from me it was all taken with a pinch of salt except the dense remark...I don't consider anyone dense on this list.
And I do consider the spill a complete tragedy but there is a case for half a dozen of one and six of the other here. The fact that the UK and Us are partners in this bemuses me that there is any brit bashing going on...but believe me we have teflon shoulders and you can throw a lot at us but it doesn't always stick. >From what I gather the Gulf shipping/boat industry is doing extremely well >while the fish industry maybe poor the boat owners are getting a better living >in the short term not doing the fishing. In the end lets hope it's stopped asap. Adrian -----Original Message----- From: Kirby McDaniel <[email protected]> To: [email protected] CC: [email protected] Sent: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 16:05 Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT; BLIGH ME, GUVNOR Adrian and MOPO, I did not mean to insult anyone and especially any of our British members by my posts. If any of this was taken by anyone as anything other than a rather bemused allusion to the scene in LAWRENCE let me correct the record here. Looking back on the thread, I can see how my comments to Adrian could be misinterpreted easily. I'm sorry for any misunderstanding that this post may have caused. Any serious thoughts I have about the spill, which is not a joke and which is a huge tragedy for the Gulf Coast, the area where I grew up, I would not choose to air on MOPO at all, but especially in a way intended to inflame members of the list or to create hard feelings over a serious matter that is way off topic. And yes, finally, I did misspell "blimey"! Kirby On Jun 14, 2010, at 2:03 AM, [email protected] wrote: Kirby, my acerbic little chum...your pun was noticed...it wasn't clever. Dense? Well I am not wrapped in my coccoon of American clay and making acidic remarks about a British company over a third owned by the US and I am not a US politician trying to make mid term election aspersions and shift the blame to anyone but good ol' Uncle Sam. And as for BP being reckless...Mmmm Exxon comes to mind, oh and Viet Nam and chasing after Weapons of Mass destruction in Iraq and now the futile actions in Afghanistan...and the UK is reckless enough to follow where many have not. (Yes we had a presence in Viet Nam allbeit unofficial). The UK remembers it's debt and Special Relationship to all those men who died on the Normandy beaches and we rise above the ridiculous comment by a two bit politician who promised so much but will deliver so little. Thankfully there are many in the US who have brains and understand the predicament. After an American crew/company using the oil rig BP has stepped up to the plate and will take on the job of repairing a mistake that wasn't in their control. -----Original Message----- From: Richard Halegua Comic Art <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 22:32 Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT; BLIGH ME, GUVNOR oh cmon Kirby, "your reckless oil company"? what BP does has nothing to do with the British people some 38% is owned by Americans hey wait.... where did you get 27% the Kuwaitis?? 38% US ownership & 45% UK ownership is in itself 83% At 02:25 PM 6/13/2010, you wrote: Adrian, Your reckless little oil company is 27% owned by the Kuwaitis! I'msure Osama Bin Lube is at the bottom of it (no pun intended) somewhere oranother. We may take your 12% dividends and build a soccer stadium withit. K. On Jun 13, 2010, at 3:17 PM,[email protected] wrote: Thas More likeit. I gather the Pres has apologised to us for the Brit bashing as BP isAnglo-American...Oil be coming round the mountain... -----Original Message----- From: Richard Halegua Comic Art<[email protected]> To:[email protected] Sent: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 21:15 Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT; BLIGH ME, GUVNOR do you mean our B P r a i r t t i n s e h r s At 01:06 PM 6/13/2010, Kirby McDaniel wrote: Quite right; we can always learnsomething from our former owners! K. On Jun 13, 2010, at 2:28 PM,[email protected] wrote: Might I point out to ourcolonial cousins it is Blimey! Not Bligh Me. -----Original Message----- From: Richard Halegua Comic Art<[email protected]> To:[email protected] Sent: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 20:26 Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT; BLIGH ME, GUVNOR I agree David Bridge on the River Kwai being a good example. No happy endingthere At 11:38 AM 6/12/2010, David Kusumoto wrote: I have always felt that Bolt'sscreenplay in "Lawrence" is not just good, butspectacular. There's a reason why it remains in the top ten listsof the greatest films ever made. It is so far ahead of its timewith its ambiguous portrait of Lawrence that it feels timeless andundated. In fact, the parts that linger on the visual majesty ofthe desert or the battle scenes sometimes drags down the pacing. I've always felt (and I know there is debate about this), that despite mylove for Gregory Peck, who won Best Actor that year, that Peter O'Toole'sperformance in Lawrence is simply electric and drop-dead perfect. And what an ending! It disappoints many, but it is an anti-climaxthat is faithful to the integrity of where Lawrence's story HAD togo. Can you imagine some corn-ball U.S.-tinkering happy endingtacked on to make Lawrence's efforts uplifting and redemptive? A generalization, but I think the Brits have a knack for makingwonderfully written films that - as I wrote last year - are masked whenthey're budgeted by American dollars and cast (e.g., Anthony Quinn, whowas a major star here in 1962) to draw an American audience. Astoundingly, the country-of-origin and first printing of"Lawrence" is the U.S.A. like "Bridge over the RiverKwai" (which was cast budgeted to include William Holden) - despitebeing thoroughly British in tone and sensibility. Hence myobsession with "country-of-origin" posters which I treat likefirst edition books regardless of less than attractive art. I'mbitter that the beginning of Carol Reed's "The Third Man" wasbutchered by Selznick when it was released in the U.S.; the Britishversion is superior. But at least in the case of the wonderfullywritten "Third Man" -- the country-of-origin is rightfully theU.K. Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 11:57:20 -0500 From:[email protected] Subject: Re: OT; BLIGH ME, GUVNOR To:[email protected] I think Bolt started the screenplay for The Bounty, but had a stroke andthe eventual film contains little of his original writing. I imagine the movie with a screenplay by the Bolt of the early 1960s, andit would have been wonderful. I first read the three novels by Charles Nordhoff and James Norman Hall(Mutiny on the Bounty, Men Against the Sea, and Pitcairn's Island) as ateen, and I know there is still a great series of movies (or an epic TVmini-series) waiting to be made of the entire story (only parts of whichwere addressed in the earlier versions). Bruce On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Kirby McDaniel<[email protected]> wrote: He also co-wrote the script for THE BOUNTY (1984), the mutiny on theHMS Bounty story, which David Lean had always wantedto film, but wasnever able to get financed. This film takes a fuller look at the BOUNTY epic, and is enjoyableenough, directed by Roger Donaldson. But one can only imagine thattale with the Lean camera and editing synergy and perfectionistsensibility. Maybe the financiers remembered all too well the MGM experience with the Brandoversion. I have always liked that version. LEAN went on to make A PASSAGE TO INDIA, a thoroughly wonderful film,in my opinion. I think that'sout on BLU - RAY now. K. On Jun 12, 2010, at 7:49 AM, Bruce Hershenson wrote: Robert Bolt, who wrote Lawrence, quickly followed withDoctor Zhivago,A Man for All Seasons(from his earlier play), andRyan's Daughter, apretty amazing string of wonderful screenplays. Of course he didn't manage to include a tagline as great as "Getoff my lawn!" in any of them, but he did his best. Bruce On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 1:06 AM, Phil Edwards<[email protected]> wrote: Odd, we nearly always think of LAWRENCE in terms of its epic scopeand spectacular visuals, but it has one of the most literate andprecisescreenplays of almost any film I can think of. ----- Original Message ----- From: Kirby McDaniel To:[email protected] Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 2:06 PM Subject: [MOPO] OT; BLIGH ME, GUVNOR Tony Hayward: I am reminded of the wonderful line Claude Rains(Dryden) gets in LAWRENCE: Prince Feisal: You, Isuspect, are chief architect of this compromise. What do you think? Mr. Dryden: Me,your Highness? 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