Steve Therein lies the problem! They guarantee their certification and that the card is original but will they refund your purchase price if it is proved a fraud? I think not the fine print somewhere says that they will cover the cost of certification. Also (and jus being a devils advocate here) the only way to discover that it’s a fraud is to BREAK it out of the capsule, and by doing so you nullify the certification. Until proven otherwise it’s a lose lose operation.
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From: MoPo List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steven Hill Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 12:05 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MOPO] Slabbed Lobby Cards at Heritage Oh for goodness sake, why doesn't anyone actually look for this information rather than spout suspicious shady theories? http://www.certifiedguaranty.com/ -Steve _____ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, July 2, 2010 9:56:37 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Slabbed Lobby Cards at Heritage Your questions have not been answered because A/ No One knows or the info is not being offered- however it will be CGC and they will be making profit from their services and who owns CGC or has a large stake in CGC? Only the Shadow knows... B/ There lies the rub...we all know that none of the lobby card "experts" are on the panel/committee However I woiuld put Sean Linkenbacks name forward to be on that committee we all know he is trustworthy enough to do the job, but you need more than just one so now it comes down to whom else and if Sean wants the job. At least it will be regular work! -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Hershenson <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 12:12 Subject: Re: [MOPO] Slabbed Lobby Cards at Heritage I see your point, but I would never do this because it is deceptive. If the "slabbers" can sell the hobby on their idea, so be it. But I doubt they will do much convincing of long time collectors. They likely will get a bunch of comic book and baseball card people involved. people who have a love of "investing" rather than a love of lobby cards, and that's their right. By the way, is it not painfully obvious that my two main questions have been completely avoided? Maybe I wrote too many words in asking the questions, so I will shorten them! 1) Exactly who is doing the grading, and what is their prior experience grading lobby cards? 2) Exactly who owns the grading company (percentages, if it is owned by several people)? Bruce On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 11:28 PM, The Principal Archivist <[email protected]> wrote: The strategy for the anti-slabbers is obvious: Starting NOW, before slabbing gets a foothold, you need to advertise your lobby cards as “NEVER SLABBED!,” implying that that’s a good thing, and that never having been slabbed is a virtue. Like “original miles” on a classic car meaning it hasn’t been rebuilt, or “unrestored” implying “never been screwed up by someone who didn’t know what they were doing.” If enough reputable dealers start crowing NOW that their lobbies have NEVER BEEN SLABBED, then, even without your saying exactly WHY that’s a good thing, you’ll sow suspicion in the minds of consumers (especially those new to the hobby) about the practice of slabbing. And by saying “Never slabbed” rather than “not slabbed,” you’d be suggesting that any lobby that has EVER been slabbed has been permanently sullied, thereby actually REDUCING the value of slabbed lobies. Marketing 101. 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