I see I made a weird error above, I wrote "I have *refused *some excellent consignments from people". but that should have read "I have *received* some excellent consignments from people" (I assume people got my intended wording from the context).
On the owner of the site O referenced, I (and everyone else) likes him. But he is the leading curmudgeon of the movie poster hobby, and he apparently sees nothing wrong with these tactics. When he and a few others pass on, it will mark the end of a P.T. Barnum type method of poster dealing (buying, selling, and auctioning, where *anything* goes) and I feel that this will be great for the hobby when it does end, for it is this sort of hucksterism and devious tactics that have kept our hobby so small. Every time someone is sold a $5 poster for $100, that is one less poster collector, and every time someone from outside the hobby sells a $100 poster to someone for $5 (because they are told that is a fair price) that is one more person who goes around bad mouthing the hobby. As to the use of the word "ruse" I was sent copies of e-mails between a visitor to that site and its owner, and after reading them, no one could feel the use of that word is "too harsh". And Geraldine, you wrote "but 2nd batch -- well, at least two posters went missing -- including a Lenon/Yoko film and the 2nd a van Hamersveld Get Carter". How does the auction house respond to you when you try to get back your posters (or get reimbursed for their true value)? Bruce On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 12:03 PM, lovenoir2 <[email protected]> wrote: > I hope that that Rudy Franchi, who owns the site-- his name is on his > site, so no secret is being divulged here-- (and who is a MOPO member > as well) responds to some of these comments. > > Some remarks suggest actions that are less than above board. To call > his service "a ruse" is rather harsh. He has been doing this work for > a long time, and long before he worked and consulted for Heritage, as > his bio page discusses. > > -KL > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 5:13 AM, Bruce Hershenson > <[email protected]> wrote: > > It's worse than that in movie posters. There is a site called > > http://www.posterappraisal.com/ where you are told that "Nothing is > bought > > or sold on this site" and that "I do not make offers for the material you > > inquire about nor do I get involved in its eventual disposition", when > > actually the owner of that site is a paid employee of a leading auction > > house and gets a finder's fee for any items that go to that auction (not > > disclosed on the site). > > > > So people THINK they are getting an honest impartial opinion, when all > they > > are getting is led to that website! "Legitimate networking"? > > > > Many people quickly see through this ruse, and I have refused some > excellent > > consignments from people who started at the above site and were shocked > and > > outraged when they learned the truth. But I am sure there have been > others > > who were bamboozled by this deception, and that is sad. > > > > Bruce > > > > On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 6:09 AM, Geraldine Kudaka < > [email protected]> > > wrote: > >> > >> Its a bit unrealistic to expect a company who makes their money from > >> grading not to take the opportunity to make more money every which way > they > >> can. > >> Also that people working for that grading company realizing they could > >> supplement their income by going into business for themselves. > >> > >> While AFA/CGA may not have direct links to selling collectibles they > >> grade, they do employ people who have their own collectible business, > and > >> AFA fields calls so that their colleague. Say someone inherits a > collection > >> and is looking for a way to liquidate it. Grading companies like AFA do > >> field these calls to colleagues with their own business. I speak from > >> experience because this is what happened to me. Its not a story I heard. > >> This happened to me when I called AFA. > >> I suppose this is called "networking" and for dealers who are left out > of > >> the loop, ethically challenged behavior. But if your hand is getting > >> buttered, then you'd call this legitimate networking. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> From: Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art <[email protected]> > >> To: [email protected] > >> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 3:23 PM > >> Subject: Re: [MOPO] Grading > >> > >> At 01:43 AM 10/12/2011, Adrian Cowdry wrote: > >> > >> Personally, if we have to go the way of grading then fine....but the > cost > >> of grading a Rodan or a Frankenstein 1931 should remain the same not a > >> percentage of the value of the card...which seems to be the case with > >> Comics. > >> > >> I agree > >> > >> I think getting a % of an Action #1 makes them want to grade a book > higher > >> than it should be graded. > >> whether they realize it or not > >> ------------- > >> > >> From: Sean Linkenback <[email protected]> > >> <snip> > >> > >> Of course it is essential that the grading company stay away from the > >> business of actually selling posters themselves to avoid the appearance > of > >> any conflict of interest. > >> Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com > >> ___________________________________________________________________ How > to > >> UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: > >> [email protected] In the BODY of your message type: > SIGNOFF > >> MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. > >> > >> Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com > >> ___________________________________________________________________ How > to > >> UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: > >> [email protected] In the BODY of your message type: > SIGNOFF > >> MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. > > > > > > -- > > Bruce Hershenson and the other 25 members of the eMoviePoster.com team > > P.O. 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