I do not look forward to his passing, because as I say I like him, but I *DO *look forward to his stopping his deceptive methods of gaining consignments for his employer. He is well aware that the mis-truths of his site have been outed, but he does not choose to change them, You see it as a way to "make money off his love". I am sure many others would love to use that defense, but I am not sure it has a legal basis!
Bruce On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 7:35 AM, Geraldine Kudaka <[email protected]>wrote: > Hollywood is a small world, and since Rudy's name was already mentioned, > I'll just say that my husband and he knew of each other 45-46 years ago. > Rudy truly loves movies, and back when doing obscure things like promoting > French New Wave meant nothing to most, Rudy was doing it. He certainly > wasn't making money off promoting these critical film ideas. So if Rudy has > found a way -- in his 70's -- to make money off his love, more power to him. > He's paid his dues. > > I understand your frustration because you work hard but its a bit unfair > -- and harsh -- to look forward to anyone's passing. I'm going to assume > it was just another weird blurting out and not a true sentiment. > > Regarding our second Heritage submission, the "conversation" was left with > us trying to produce the list we had compiled for shipping. The Lennon/Yoko > and Get Carter were films Charley had worked on, so we have multiples. > (Charley even commissioned van Hamersveld to do the Get Carter poster.) The > first batch we sent, which included, among others, Lennon/Yoko & Get Carter, > did so well we sent a 2nd batch. Its been left at our coming up with our > list because they have no record. > > Mind you, we're pretty busy around here, what with winter approaching, I > don't have a lot of time. Here's a good example -- I have to get our taxes > done and in the mail by Monday. > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Bruce Hershenson <[email protected]> > *To:* [email protected] > *Sent:* Thursday, October 13, 2011 1:25 PM > *Subject:* Re: [MOPO] Grading > > I see I made a weird error above, I wrote "I have *refused *some excellent > consignments from people". but that should have read "I have *received*some > excellent consignments from people"(I assume people got my intended wording > from the context). > > On the owner of the site O referenced, I (and everyone else) likes him. But > he is the leading curmudgeon of the movie poster hobby, and he apparently > sees nothing wrong with these tactics. When he and a few others pass on, it > will mark the end of a P.T. Barnum type method of poster dealing (buying, > selling, and auctioning, where *anything* goes) and I feel that this will > be great for the hobby when it does end, for it is this sort of hucksterism > and devious tactics that have kept our hobby so small. Every time someone is > sold a $5 poster for $100, that is one less poster collector, and every time > someone from outside the hobby sells a $100 poster to someone for $5 > (because they are told that is a fair price) that is one more person who > goes around bad mouthing the hobby. > > As to the use of the word "ruse" I was sent copies of e-mails between a > visitor to that site and its owner, and after reading them, no one could > feel the use of that word is "too harsh". > > And Geraldine, you wrote "but 2nd batch -- well, at least two posters went > missing -- including a Lenon/Yoko film and the 2nd a van Hamersveld Get > Carter". How does the auction house respond to you when you try to get > back your posters (or get reimbursed for their true value)? > > Bruce > > > > On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 12:03 PM, lovenoir2 <[email protected]> wrote: > > I hope that that Rudy Franchi, who owns the site-- his name is on his > site, so no secret is being divulged here-- (and who is a MOPO member > as well) responds to some of these comments. > > Some remarks suggest actions that are less than above board. To call > his service "a ruse" is rather harsh. He has been doing this work for > a long time, and long before he worked and consulted for Heritage, as > his bio page discusses. > > -KL > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 5:13 AM, Bruce Hershenson > <[email protected]> wrote: > > It's worse than that in movie posters. There is a site called > > http://www.posterappraisal.com/ where you are told that "Nothing is > bought > > or sold on this site" and that "I do not make offers for the material you > > inquire about nor do I get involved in its eventual disposition", when > > actually the owner of that site is a paid employee of a leading auction > > house and gets a finder's fee for any items that go to that auction (not > > disclosed on the site). > > > > So people THINK they are getting an honest impartial opinion, when all > they > > are getting is led to that website! "Legitimate networking"? > > > > Many people quickly see through this ruse, and I have refused some > excellent > > consignments from people who started at the above site and were shocked > and > > outraged when they learned the truth. But I am sure there have been > others > > who were bamboozled by this deception, and that is sad. > > > > Bruce > > > > On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 6:09 AM, Geraldine Kudaka < > [email protected]> > > wrote: > >> > >> Its a bit unrealistic to expect a company who makes their money from > >> grading not to take the opportunity to make more money every which way > they > >> can. > >> Also that people working for that grading company realizing they could > >> supplement their income by going into business for themselves. > >> > >> While AFA/CGA may not have direct links to selling collectibles they > >> grade, they do employ people who have their own collectible business, > and > >> AFA fields calls so that their colleague. Say someone inherits a > collection > >> and is looking for a way to liquidate it. Grading companies like AFA do > >> field these calls to colleagues with their own business. I speak from > >> experience because this is what happened to me. Its not a story I heard. > >> This happened to me when I called AFA. > >> I suppose this is called "networking" and for dealers who are left out > of > >> the loop, ethically challenged behavior. But if your hand is getting > >> buttered, then you'd call this legitimate networking. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> From: Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art <[email protected]> > >> To: [email protected] > >> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 3:23 PM > >> Subject: Re: [MOPO] Grading > >> > >> At 01:43 AM 10/12/2011, Adrian Cowdry wrote: > >> > >> Personally, if we have to go the way of grading then fine....but the > cost > >> of grading a Rodan or a Frankenstein 1931 should remain the same not a > >> percentage of the value of the card...which seems to be the case with > >> Comics. > >> > >> I agree > >> > >> I think getting a % of an Action #1 makes them want to grade a book > higher > >> than it should be graded. > >> whether they realize it or not > >> ------------- > >> > >> From: Sean Linkenback <[email protected]> > >> <snip> > >> > >> Of course it is essential that the grading company stay away from the > >> business of actually selling posters themselves to avoid the appearance > of > >> any conflict of interest. > >> Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com > >> ___________________________________________________________________ How > to > >> UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: > >> [email protected] In the BODY of your message type: > SIGNOFF > >> MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. > >> > >> Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com > >> ___________________________________________________________________ How > to > >> UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: > >> [email protected] In the BODY of your message type: > SIGNOFF > >> MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. > > > > > > -- > > Bruce Hershenson and the other 25 members of the eMoviePoster.com team > > P.O. 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