Hi Jim,

I can certainly share your enthusiasm for having ones own poster(s) 
authenticated by someone reputable in the industry. Thumbs up to MPGrading for 
offering their authentication service. A great peace of mind to be had for sure.


Where it falls apart for me is where the COA and staining become involved. The 
COA is only really meant to be of any use when selling the poster. I however 
see this to be of little or no use for a buyer (as per my previous message), in 
fact they may have bid/or paid more for the poster thinking it adds more value 
than it really does.

Hi Todd,

Thanks for the explanation. 


If people can read the invisible code with a UV light reader, why not just 
print that code on the COA in normal black ink instead? Are UV light readers 
not available to crooks? This makes no sense to me.


The answer appears to be that the ink contains DNA, "invisible DNA laced ink". 
The DNA on the COA can only be confirmed by a lab against the DNA on the poster 
because: "This DNA sequence is so secure it is admissible in a court of law" - 
unique to "1 in 33 trillion".  


If a phone call or checking data sheets was all that was required to confirm 
authenticity, what purpose is the hyped DNA (which I believe needs to get 
analysed by a 3rd party lab) and also the RFID Tag which can only be analysed 
by MPGrading?

Well it clearly makes no sense to me, and to avoid me asking 400 more 
questions, I'll leave it at that.

Thanks


Steve








________________________________
 From: James Gresham <[email protected]>
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Thursday, 26 January 2012, 23:29
Subject: Re: [MOPO] MP Grading
 

Steve, you are obviously a detailed guy.  But, I think you are reading way too 
much into this.  It's much simpler and easier then all of your  "what ifs."  
The good greatly out weighs the vague what if this happens or what if that 
happens.

I am not about to try an address every contingency.  I have tried it & my 
experience is that this is wonderful and of real value.  Its not perfect.  Its 
probably not for you & I understand.  But, when you find something that is 
good, you want people to know.  For example, people have been posting  about 
how good "Hugo" the movie is.  Well, I have found something good & wanted to 
let people know.  There will still be people who dont like Hugo.  Jim


On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 8:05 AM, Steve E <[email protected]> wrote:

Last time I thought about this I had about 70 concerns and Todd kindly 
responded to around half of them.
>
>
>My thoughts on - buyers have confidence/no fear:
>- As a buyer prior to purchase I can't check that the COA is indeed for the 
>poster being sold. To be 100% sure of the authenticity, I first have to take 
>the COA document to MPGrading and pay them to analyse/cross referenced it 
>against the permanent "invisible" stain put onto the poster. How much will 
>this cost me, how much will it cost me to send it to them and also have it 
>returned, will my cherished poster get damaged during transit or whilst there, 
>will it arrive back or be lost? Can I do this check before I buy a poster, not 
>likely. If I do a check after purchase, will the seller reverse the 
>transaction if found there to be no match?... unlikely. To me as a buyer I 
>find no value in this at all. I most certainly couldn't do this for every 
>poster purchased which is accompanied by the MPGrading COA - the others would 
>all remain unauthenticated. If I on sold the poster with a COA and it turned 
>out they were not a match, could there be any legal
 ramifications for me?   
>
>
>
>Additionally I guess the stain on the poster may discolor over time - I am 
>assuming the stain hasn't been tested over real years, maybe simulated sped up 
>years. Who knows for sure, anyone had a poster with the stain on it for 10 
>years or more?   
>
>
>Put me in the skeptical camp, I think the idea is in the right place... but... 
>I see MPGrading/COA overall as a negative in my poster acquisitions: cost, 
>possible damage, an unknown stain. Will I lose the COA? (it will be another 
>thing I need to keep track of) Will I muddle up the COA and associate it with 
>another copy of the poster I have... I better stop thinking about this 
>again... 
>
>
>
>Steve Enders
>
>
>
>
>
>
>________________________________
> From: James Gresham <[email protected]>
>To: [email protected] 
>Sent: Thursday, 26 January 2012, 2:10
>Subject: [MOPO] MP Grading
> 
>
>I wanted to make an unsolicited comment about MP Grading.
>
>
>I have slowly but surely been sending my entire collection to MP Grading.  I 
>think its is a wonderful service.  They have been professionally grading and 
>evaluating my collection.  In this post Haggard era of horror, this is a very 
>comforting thing to do.  I see some real benefits to this program.  There is 
>some inconvenience and some minor costs, but they are far outweighed by the 
>benefits.
>
>
>Some of the benefits I see are:
>
>
>1.  I have the assurance that my cards and posters are truly legitimate.
>2.  They give you a professional looking certificate for each card showing the 
>grade.
>3.  I have found that with some sellers grades vary, depending upon the person 
>doing the grading.  This MP Grading system will take much of the subjectivity 
>out of the system.  As a buyer, I would much rather purchase a card that they 
>have graded, as it is consistent, not subject to the whim of the seller.
>4.  They take a very good photo of each card or poster.
>5.  As a seller, I can sell a card grading it with confidence, as I just use 
>the grade that MP Grading has given it.  I believe I am getting better prices 
>selling cards that they have graded.  Buyers can be confident.  Especially for 
>me, as I was associated with Haggard.  Buyers have no fear.
>6.  I often worry about what would happen if there was ever a fire or a theft. 
> MP Grading provides a secondary source of verification should I ever need it 
>with my insurance company.  As a matter of fact, I know Four Color Comics 
>experienced this very thing.
>7.  I like the fact that my cards are not sealed like cgc cards.  I want my 
>cards out for displaying.
>
>
>Overall, I think it is wonderful what MP Grading is doing for our hobby.  If 
>everyone got on board, our hobby would be a better, safer, more professional 
>hobby.  I think that would raise our values.
>
>
>Anyway, I am very impressed with what MP Grading is doing for our hobby.  I 
>encourage each and every collector and dealer to get on board.  Like I said, 
>Todd has no idea I am sending this out.  It is truly from the heart.  Jim 
>Gresham
>
>
>PS.  Dont forget to buy Children of the Night & They're Here Already!  They 
>can be found at...
>
>
>www.childrenofthenightbook.com   & www.theyreherealreadybook.com  
>
>
>-- 
>Jim Gresham
>18501 Henry Ct
>Ray Mi 48096
>586 677-7669
>
>www.greshamsinc.com
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>www.theyreherealreadybook.com
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