>geeze everyone is civil on Mopo thois is awesome.. some great
posts...
maybe we are all getting to old to spar anymore???  :)
anyways its cool seeing people talk about movies instead of minty
whites and ebay ripoffs.. thanks FolkS hope everyones having a good
day.

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>---- Original Message ----
>From: [email protected]
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [MOPO] Anyone know what went on with the first campaign
>for The Long Goodbye?
>Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 13:09:57 -0700
>
>>I might also mention that parts of the film are totally 
>>unintelligible and some very important issues are completely glossed
>
>>over, like for instance why Nina Van Pallandt kills the woman and 
>>what the historical connection is between the victim and Sterling 
>>Hayden (who in my opinion is the single actor in the film that did a
>
>>good job) that resulted in the crime. Why Terry Lennox is involved
>at 
>>all is almost completely ignored and to say that Jim Bouton was 100 
>>times the ball player than he was an actor is an understatement of 
>>massive proportion
>>
>>
>>At 12:49 PM 8/26/2012, Posteritati wrote:
>>>rich,
>>>
>>>beg to differ but altman's deconstruction of marlowe is simply
>>>brilliant and considered so by many influential film critics. in my
>>>opinion book adaptations should not necessarily heed closely to the
>>>original.
>>>
>>>fyi,i am also a big marlowe fan and have read & loved his books.
>>>
>>>regards,
>>>sam
>>>
>>>Posteritati
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Aug 26, 2012, at 3:41 PM, Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art
>wrote:
>>>
>>>>quick answer. Released with the original Amsel style A& B.
>>>>film did poorly (because as a Raymond Chandler adaptation, the
>film
>>>>sucks. more below)
>>>>film was pulled & a new comedic ad campaign was designed with MAD
>>>>artist Jack Davis.
>>>>the film apparently didn't last a couple weeks in it's first
>release
>>>>and it didn't get wide release either, so distribution of posters
>>>>was minimal.
>>>>it is interesting to note I have never been able to find a
>Pressbook
>>>>with the original posters and Walt Reuben says there isn't one,
>>>>although the pressbook for the re-issued campaign is very common.
>>>>The international design is not in the pressbook.
>>>>It is also interesting to note that all four styles do exist as
>1sh,
>>>>insert, hs & possibly 30x40. I have never seen 3sheets for the
>Amsel
>>>>designs, although I do have the Davis & not too long ago got the
>>>>International from Bruce's auctions. It is unusual for a film of
>>>>this time period to have 4 different posters in those sizes
>mentioned.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>why Long Goodbye SUCKS
>>>>
>>>>this is really something that gets down to the basic content of
>the
>>>>book and how Altman decided to translate it.
>>>>
>>>>#1 all Marlowe books are "first-person" stories. All scenes
>written
>>>>contain Marlowe and what is described is what he sees.
>>>>
>>>>#2 Altman's movie making philosophy is diametrically opposed to
>such
>>>>a structure. Altman's films are ensemble pieces where each
>character
>>>>is equally as important as all others and even the starring actors
>>>>are secondary concepts. Any single character standing out is
>>>>anathema to Altman's style
>>>>
>>>>#3 Altman literally destroyed the Marlowe myth as a White Knight.
>He
>>>>changed Marlowe from an intelligent chess player, college grad
>>>>(Marlowe broke his nose as a football player in college), a former
>>>>investigator in the District Attorney's office and the anti-
>>>>misogynist into a bumbling detective who couldn't find his own
>shoes
>>>>under his bed and then finally at the end of the film, a murderer
>>>>who happily dances down the road after killing Terry Lennox in
>cold
>>>>blood.
>>>>
>>>>the film should have been made as a standard vehicle without any
>>>>attribution to Chandler. As a Marlowe movie, it's even worse than
>>>>the Brasher Doubloon which also partially destroyed the Marlowe
>>>>myth, but wasn't as pretentious as Altman's interpretation of
>>>>Chandler's work.
>>>>
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