Lots of films, especially something like IFM, didn't always get official/dated re-releases. They just kept playing on and off for a long time, getting bookings from suburban and rurals, small circuits and independents. I can only imagine that IFM also did solid kids matinees for a very long time. I think that is the point Bruce is making.
I'm experiencing a bit of a Groundhog Day about this discussion on IFM. There is something crude about the 1955 IFM that goes beyond the colours. It is certainly a less desirable variation of the poster, it's clearly later - I think the 1955 is not a mistake and I think the attempts to elevate it to something better than it is does not reflect well on those doing it. But we have been here before with this stuff. People have no concrete info about why something is so, so they construct "plausible scenarios" to make something seem better than it might be. Phil On October 13, 2013 at 8:34 AM Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art <[email protected]> wrote: > I know I have seen improperly dated posters > it isn't outside the realm of possibility > > take 2001 posters. all the misdatings create a real issue for collectors > > > At 02:23 PM 10/12/2013, David Lieberman wrote: > > > > my two cents... > > > > The most plausible theory in my opinion is that it was possibly still > > playing in some theaters in late 1954 or early 1955 and they needed more > > posters so they printed more and some print shop employee decided to update > > the date to 1955. > > > > Can you imagine some print shop employee here in present day 2013 > > "accidentally" putting copyright 2015 on a poster? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Bruce Hershenson < > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: > > So what is your theory about WHY anyone changed the date? It didn't > > change itself. And why the color change? Why couldn't the answer simply be > > that in 1955 they ran out of originals and printed new posters, even if > > there wasn't any official re-release (maybe it was playing in second run > > theaters and THEY needed posters for that)?\ > > > > Also, I found a source that completely disagrees with you here: > > http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=694&lotIdNo=7033 > > <http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=694&lotIdNo=7033> > > > > On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Smith, Grey - 1367 < [email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > The film was not reissued by all information I have ever been > > able to obtain concerning this issue. > > > > It has been a topic of conversation for thirty five years among > > sci-fi collectors as to what these poster were used for and why the date? > > > > I’ve collected sci-fi for that long if not longer and have > > never seen a single reissue poster from Invaders from Mars 1955 that was > > marked as such! > > > > Not a single lobby, insert, 40”X or any format for that matter. > > Can anyone tell me if they have those posters? > > > > If this 1955 poster were a reissue why would it have not been > > noted in the lower right in the NSS number? > > > > The general belief among a number in the hobby including myself > > is that this was either a misdated second printing that was either used or > > not used, as many were found some years ago that were flat folded. > > > > It seems they must have made it into the population as I have > > seen them well used and a number that are near mint! > > > > Perhaps as Rich mentions the film was so popular and kept in > > distribution at the time that the studio decided to reprint the posters for > > a continued distribution and thus dated the poster as such, but I find that > > hard to believe. > > > > I very much believe this was a mis-dated print run that was > > perhaps distributed and perhaps a large number stored by a printer due to > > the mis-dating. > > > > Any further information would be appreciated as I was -4 when > > the film premiered! > > > > I do know that they are somewhat discounted by collectors die > > to the date but I believe they are from the same time period as the original > > and far more attractive. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: MoPo List [ mailto:[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]> ] On Behalf Of Richard Halegua Posters > > + Comic Art > > Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2013 3:09 PM > > To: [email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [MOPO] Invaders From Mars 1955, re-release or > > mispint? > > > > > > > > Here is a great comparison of two posters for It Came From > > Beneath the Sea - both recognized as original release posters - and both are > > printed with different colors > > > > > > http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=161342&lotIdNo=38018 > > <http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=161342&lotIdNo=38018> > > http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7083&lotIdNo=27008 > > <http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7083&lotIdNo=27008> > > another situation with the same coloration differential is > > First Men in the Moon > > http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=57023&lotNo=26155 > > <http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=57023&lotNo=26155> > > http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=161301&lotNo=53144 > > <http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=161301&lotNo=53144> > > and of course, we all know that Star Wars was printed 4 times > > for the extended original release, although we can easily differentiate the > > printings because we have the information due to the fact that Star Wars is > > well researched and recent enough for us to have been able to access the > > data. > > > > Concerning the Invaders From Mars one sheets, I do not know if > > Heritage is right or wrong, however according to the IMDB, there is no 1955 > > re-issue, so it's possible that Heritage is correct and Grey may have been > > able to get access to data in research that led to his determination. I > > don't know either way, but I doi know that Harryhausen posters shown above > > show clear printing variations that can only be explained by reprinting of > > the posters for extended releases of those very successful films. > > > > > > Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com > > <http://www.filmfan.com> > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. 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