I would ask...is the artists name evident on the poster as opposed to not being evident?
Ade This never happened to the other fella... Adrian Cowdry -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Hershenson <[email protected]> To: MoPo-L <[email protected]> Sent: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 22:34 Subject: Re: [MOPO] Invaders From Mars 1955, re-release or mispint? If Grey's theory is correct, then isn't FAR MORE LIKELY that the "misprint" is actually the VERY FIRST poster printed? THINK ABOUT IT! The one-sheets are printed and someone sees that some boob made a mistake on the copyright date. They ordered a new print run, and while they were at it, they "improved" the colors (since they were reprinting anyway). But they needed one-sheets right away, so they used the "wrong date" ones until they got the "corrected" ones. This would cover all the known facts, and it makes sense (a lot more sense than that they needed more one-sheets in 1953 and someone altered the plates and changed the date to two years in the future). If the poster WASN'T printed FIRST, then the only reasonable answer is what David and I said, which is that it was done two years later (because only some more one-sheets were needed). Finally, Grey, why do you say "If there is an item in our archive" when I posted a link to a page in your archive that identifies it as a 1955 re-release? The page says "Invaders From Mars (20th Century Fox, R-1955)" and also "This is a lovely, flat folded copy of the 1955re-release one sheet!" Where is the "if" about that? On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 4:23 PM, David Lieberman <[email protected]> wrote: my two cents... The most plausible theory in my opinion is that it was possibly still playing in some theaters in late 1954 or early 1955 and they needed more posters so they printed more and some print shop employee decided to update the date to 1955. Can you imagine some print shop employee here in present day 2013 "accidentally" putting copyright 2015 on a poster? On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Bruce Hershenson <[email protected]> wrote: So what is your theory about WHY anyone changed the date? It didn't change itself. And why the color change? Why couldn't the answer simply be that in 1955 they ran out of originals and printed new posters, even if there wasn't any official re-release (maybe it was playing in second run theaters and THEY needed posters for that)?\ Also, I found a source that completely disagrees with you here: http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=694&lotIdNo=7033 On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Smith, Grey - 1367 <[email protected]> wrote: The film was not reissued by all information I have ever been able to obtain concerning this issue. It has been a topic of conversation for thirty five years among sci-fi collectors as to what these poster were used for and why the date? I’ve collected sci-fi for that long if not longer and have never seen a single reissue poster from Invaders from Mars 1955 that was marked as such! Not a single lobby, insert, 40”X or any format for that matter. Can anyone tell me if they have those posters? If this 1955 poster were a reissue why would it have not been noted in the lower right in the NSS number? The general belief among a number in the hobby including myself is that this was either a misdated second printing that was either used or not used, as many were found some years ago that were flat folded. It seems they must have made it into the population as I have seen them well used and a number that are near mint! Perhaps as Rich mentions the film was so popular and kept in distribution at the time that the studio decided to reprint the posters for a continued distribution and thus dated the poster as such, but I find that hard to believe. I very much believe this was a mis-dated print run that was perhaps distributed and perhaps a large number stored by a printer due to the mis-dating. Any further information would be appreciated as I was -4 when the film premiered! I do know that they are somewhat discounted by collectors die to the date but I believe they are from the same time period as the original and far more attractive. From: MoPo List [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2013 3:09 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MOPO] Invaders From Mars 1955, re-release or mispint? Here is a great comparison of two posters for It Came From Beneath the Sea - both recognized as original release posters - and both are printed with different colors http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=161342&lotIdNo=38018 http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7083&lotIdNo=27008 another situation with the same coloration differential is First Men in the Moon http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=57023&lotNo=26155 http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=161301&lotNo=53144 and of course, we all know that Star Wars was printed 4 times for the extended original release, although we can easily differentiate the printings because we have the information due to the fact that Star Wars is well researched and recent enough for us to have been able to access the data. Concerning the Invaders From Mars one sheets, I do not know if Heritage is right or wrong, however according to the IMDB, there is no 1955 re-issue, so it's possible that Heritage is correct and Grey may have been able to get access to data in research that led to his determination. I don't know either way, but I doi know that Harryhausen posters shown above show clear printing variations that can only be explained by reprinting of the posters for extended releases of those very successful films. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site atwww.filmfan.com ___________________________________________________________________ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to:[email protected] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. 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