Those clips could not have been longer than two minutes if that.  It would be 
interesting to know whether The Academy has those
clips archived.  I still remember the one from BEN HUR.

Am I wrong — or did they have those clips for the Best Actor / Best Actress 
awards too?

K.

On Mar 4, 2014, at 2:02 PM, Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art 
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Kirby's comment actually highlights one of the differences between today's 
> film editing techniques and the old techniques:
> 
> today's films - particularly those by Zach Snyder for instance - are 
> overloaded with staccato 15 frame edits to force visual action. You hardly 
> see what the camera setup was.
> 
> This would be unlike the long orations of a few seconds or longer, or the 
> focus on a star's face for many seconds
> 
> of course, add the staccato edits to low lighting techniques used commonly 
> today and you always have a feeling you missed lots of imagery
> 
> it makes sense that the current audience is more interested in these fast 
> clips than a 3.5 minute Kubrick take as in Paths of Glory or the one by 
> Welles at the beginning of Touch of Evil
> 
> is it progress? that's for the historians to pronouce down the road
> 
> Rich
> 
> At 11:40 AM 3/4/2014, Kirby McDaniel wrote:
>> I have one comment.  I think that the Best Picture clips were better when 
>> they used to be short scenes from the films rather than these mash-ups that 
>> they do now. 
>> 
>> Other than that I can’t really comment much about them because I missed them 
>> for the FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE!  I attended a concert by The Cleveland 
>> Orchestra on Sunday
>> night.  Since the orchestra was utterly FABULOUS, I don’t feel bereft of 
>> anything.  I did see the last few awards.  The nominees were all in pretty 
>> good company this year.  Some
>> outstanding pictures.  You people in Cleveland are lucky to have that 
>> wonderful orchestra.  They played a great program at the Menuhin Festival 
>> here, including the Tchaikovsky
>> 5th Symphony which was a tour de force.  An orchestra of that dimension 
>> ----- is the highest - fi there is.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Kirby
>> 
>> On Mar 4, 2014, at 12:34 PM, Channing Thomson < [email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> What's Alf?  On a more serious note, I felt the reaction to Kim Novak was 
>>> painful and cruel and left me feeling down for a couple of days.  I didn't 
>>> like the overall tone of the Awards this year.  I'd like to see a little 
>>> more focus on film history and the people that made the industry great as 
>>> well as a return to it being presented as an Academy and not a celebrity 
>>> roast.  Channing Thomson
>>> 
>>> On Mar 4, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Scott Burns <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> There was a time when the Academy celebrated the magic of the movies, both 
>>>> past AND present. That’s clearly not the case these days. The only 
>>>> “salute” to Hollywood’s past was the Oz tribute—but they didn’t think 
>>>> enough of Garland’s offspring to even bring them up on stage. Couldn’t the 
>>>> last surviving Munchkin, Jerry Maren make an appearance? Nothing against 
>>>> Pink, but what relevance to Oz did she have? Major missed opportunity 
>>>> Academy!
>>>>  
>>>> It seemed to me that no one in the audience even recognized Kim Novak 
>>>> (please no plastic surgery jokes). No standing ovation for this star of 
>>>> the 50’s/60’s? There’s no excuse for anyone in the movie biz not having 
>>>> ever seen “Vertigo” or “Picnic.”
>>>>  
>>>> And no tribute to Shirley Temple? Come on. Even those members of “new 
>>>> Hollywood” must have watched a few Temple films when they were growing up. 
>>>> Of course my beef about classic stars goes beyond the Oscars. 
>>>> Entertainment Weekly puts Phillip Seymour Hoffman on the cover when he 
>>>> kills himself via a drug overdose, yet arguably the biggest star of the 
>>>> 1930’s gets no mention on the cover at all? She did get 2 pages inside, 
>>>> but I was surprised they gave her even that much space.
>>>>  
>>>> Even when I was in my 20’s and watching the Oscars, I always enjoyed 
>>>> seeing the classic stars who had dropped out of the limelight. I enjoyed 
>>>> the honorary Oscar presentation and even the Jean Hersholt award …now such 
>>>> honors have been moved off the Oscar telecast completely.
>>>>  
>>>> Not to diss the younger generation, but the world did exist before you 
>>>> were born and there are people and events worth knowing about. I work with 
>>>> some people who’s pop culture knowledge only reaches back as far as the 
>>>> “Alf” TV show in the 1990’s. Scary!!! 
>>>>  
>>>> Scott
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>>>> From: MoPo List [ mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Zeev 
>>>> Drach
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 9:47 AM
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>>>> Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars - a slave to sentiment?
>>>>  
>>>> My instinctive reaction re modern “stars” is the same as yours, but after 
>>>> thinking a moment you realize that for a good chunk of viewers, if not the 
>>>> majority, Robert  De Niro IS an old-time star!  Anybody prior is a vaguely 
>>>> familiar.  All this means is that some of us, like you yourself suggested, 
>>>> are getting really old!
>>>>  
>>>> Zeev
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>>>> From: MoPo List [ mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bruce 
>>>> Hershenson
>>>> Sent: March 4, 2014 8:14 AM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars - a slave to sentiment?
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> One thing I am certain of is that if you are a fan of the "Ellen" TV show, 
>>>> then you surely liked the Oscar telecast. And if you like watching people 
>>>> pat themselves and their peers on the back, you were surely in hog heaven.
>>>> 
>>>> I know I am getting really old, because I think the modern "stars" can't 
>>>> hold a candle to the stars of the 1920s to 1960s.
>>>> I always hated those "production numbers". I would SO rather see old-time 
>>>> stars, and not just given a second and then shuffled off stage.  How about 
>>>> clips of classic movies that DON'T last three seconds each?
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:47 AM, Tommy Barr <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> I know it’s not really about posters, but I haven’t read anything here 
>>>> about the Oscars, so I wondered if any others share my puzzlement over 
>>>> exactly what the criteria for ‘best film’ is?  Apart from the big one 12 
>>>> Years A Slave won 2 other Oscars, while Gravity won 7 awards, including 
>>>> best director. Surely that must be a win on points for Gravity? Ellen 
>>>> joked that either 12 Years would win or else the Academy was racist, and I 
>>>> suspect that the Afro-American dimension did, in fact, contribute to the 
>>>> end decision. Racism does not necessarily have to express itself as 
>>>> hatred, but it is not particularly edifying to see it expressed in a 
>>>> patronising way either. I was saddened to see the great actor Sidney 
>>>> Poitier trundled out to receive what was, given the occasion, something 
>>>> like a pat on the head for his career and being the first black actor to 
>>>> win an Oscar for Best Actor, and am I being in overly critical in the 
>>>> Academy then having Will Smith present the Best Film award? There is no 
>>>> doubt that Hollywood, like the rest of the USA, can have its conscience 
>>>> tugged when it comes to the treatment of the Afro-American community. 
>>>> Birth of a Nation is hardly an advert for multi-cultural harmony, and 
>>>> movies like the Marx Brothers A Day At The Races have scenes which sit 
>>>> uncomfortably with present day attitudes. Maybe the Academy felt some 
>>>> atonement was due for the failure of  The Color Purple to win any awards? 
>>>> Anyway, as a non-American I may have a jaundiced view which is not shared 
>>>> by others, but I am interested in finding out what the views of MOPO 
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