Hey folks from a viewpoint of motion picture fan and all the
nostalgia associted.. I thought when Ellen had pizze delivered it was
a big cultual statement,,,,see... I think the days of old have
passed.and to see people like scorsese and Pitt eating Pizzas in
Tuxes showed that the Glamour years of Hollywood are a menory,, these
Kids and peopel just are not the same.. or think the same.
which is Ok... as it was a period we where lucking to even see on
film or in photos,,, But today people are thinking more modest
living..and so much is casual... as far as etiquite well archabald
Leach has passed away... the rat packs vegas fun is gone..the many
femmgattles or screen queens are very few..IMHO... they have
forgotten already the many that Formed Hollywood as we saw it from
the teens to say 80s...after theytook out the Picture palaces and
Ballyhoo of film promotion with lavish theater interiors and
exteriors and the grand exhibition and highly skilled Film
projectionists its really like a cheap automatic laundry and why with
high costs and digital prints that are just an excuse to ctrank up
the volume and create video games o n screen .... its all gone..
sure a few get through but its either recanned stuff and more
selected to deomgraphic which are KIds,,, not old movie buffs,,, as
far as the Oscars... Its was sad for me to see the few older stars be
made fun of,,, and most of the peopel I was not familier with...
special effects are great but now seem like 80% if te story,,,,
the novie poster art is almost all gone also.... as most people
preder a trailer now on the net,,,
the popcorn is way overpriced and the overall mood of the industry is
to make blockbuster comic book films... why?? because your average
movie lover wants.. Horror, shootem up crime, and action...
and a few watch small venue art films... its been going this way
since the 1960s really,,, because of production costa and public
interet.... the good news is the Pizza guy at the oscars has been
busy,,, so that sums up my take,,,next year they should drop the
Tuxes and wear bermuda shorts and they will be all set and same more
money, I like ever one liked the respect the Oscars gave the starts
of Hollywood... But when I consider who they are now.. there are not
as many as we had over the years that have stood out..perhaps it will
improve,,,, But most of the theaters around here have closed.. so the
experience of movie going is not what it was..the costs of heat and
air and a crew and all and cost to project are just
overwhelming....IMHO
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>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars - a slave to sentiment?
>Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 10:34:04 -0800
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>>What's Alf? On a more serious note, I felt the reaction to Kim
>Novak was painful and cruel and left me feeling down for a couple of
>days. I didn't like the overall tone of the Awards this year. I'd
>like to see a little more focus on film history and the people that
>made the industry great as well as a return to it being presented as
>an Academy and not a celebrity roast. Channing Thomson
>>
>>On Mar 4, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Scott Burns <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> There was a time when the Academy celebrated the magic of the
>movies, both past AND present. Thats clearly not the case these
>days. The only salute to Hollywoods past was the Oz tributebut
>they didnt think enough of Garlands offspring to even bring them up
>on stage. Couldnt the last surviving Munchkin, Jerry Maren make an
>appearance? Nothing against Pink, but what relevance to Oz did she
>have? Major missed opportunity Academy!
>>>
>>> It seemed to me that no one in the audience even recognized Kim
>Novak (please no plastic surgery jokes). No standing ovation for this
>star of the 50s/60s? Theres no excuse for anyone in the movie biz
>not having ever seen Vertigo or Picnic.
>>>
>>> And no tribute to Shirley Temple? Come on. Even those members of
>new Hollywood must have watched a few Temple films when they were
>growing up. Of course my beef about classic stars goes beyond the
>Oscars. Entertainment Weekly puts Phillip Seymour Hoffman on the
>cover when he kills himself via a drug overdose, yet arguably the
>biggest star of the 1930s gets no mention on the cover at all? She
>did get 2 pages inside, but I was surprised they gave her even that
>much space.
>>>
>>> Even when I was in my 20s and watching the Oscars, I always
>enjoyed seeing the classic stars who had dropped out of the
>limelight. I enjoyed the honorary Oscar presentation and even the
>Jean Hersholt award
now such honors have been moved off the Oscar
>telecast completely.
>>>
>>> Not to diss the younger generation, but the world did exist before
>you were born and there are people and events worth knowing about. I
>work with some people whos pop culture knowledge only reaches back
>as far as the Alf TV show in the 1990s. Scary!!!
>>>
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>>> From: MoPo List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
>Zeev Drach
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 9:47 AM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars - a slave to sentiment?
>>>
>>> My instinctive reaction re modern stars is the same as yours,
>but after thinking a moment you realize that for a good chunk of
>viewers, if not the majority, Robert De Niro IS an old-time star!
>Anybody prior is a vaguely familiar. All this means is that some of
>us, like you yourself suggested, are getting really old!
>>>
>>> Zeev
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>>> From: MoPo List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
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>>> Sent: March 4, 2014 8:14 AM
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>>> Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars - a slave to sentiment?
>>>
>>> One thing I am certain of is that if you are a fan of the "Ellen"
>TV show, then you surely liked the Oscar telecast. And if you like
>watching people pat themselves and their peers on the back, you were
>surely in hog heaven.
>>>
>>> I know I am getting really old, because I think the modern "stars"
>can't hold a candle to the stars of the 1920s to 1960s.
>>>
>>> I always hated those "production numbers". I would SO rather see
>old-time stars, and not just given a second and then shuffled off
>stage. How about clips of classic movies that DON'T last three
>seconds each?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:47 AM, Tommy Barr <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>>> I know its not really about posters, but I havent read anything
>here about the Oscars, so I wondered if any others share my
>puzzlement over exactly what the criteria for best film is? Apart
>from the big one 12 Years A Slave won 2 other Oscars, while Gravity
>won 7 awards, including best director. Surely that must be a win on
>points for Gravity? Ellen joked that either 12 Years would win or
>else the Academy was racist, and I suspect that the Afro-American
>dimension did, in fact, contribute to the end decision. Racism does
>not necessarily have to express itself as hatred, but it is not
>particularly edifying to see it expressed in a patronising way
>either. I was saddened to see the great actor Sidney Poitier trundled
>out to receive what was, given the occasion, something like a pat on
>the head for his career and being the first black actor to win an
>Oscar for Best Actor, and am I being in overly critical in the
>Academy then having Will Smith present the Best Film award? There is
>no doubt that Hollywood, like the rest of the USA, can have its
>conscience tugged when it comes to the treatment of the Afro-American
>community. Birth of a Nation is hardly an advert for multi-cultural
>harmony, and movies like the Marx Brothers A Day At The Races have
>scenes which sit uncomfortably with present day attitudes. Maybe the
>Academy felt some atonement was due for the failure of The Color
>Purple to win any awards? Anyway, as a non-American I may have a
>jaundiced view which is not shared by others, but I am interested in
>finding out what the views of MOPO subscribers are.
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