excellent and informative post Grey

thanks for the info

Rich


At 02:04 PM 3/29/2014, Smith, Grey - 1367 wrote:
Channing
Very uncommon but for a number of reasons. The 40X was not, as far as I can determined, produced for every film in the 1930s as clearly the press books do not show that to be the case, from what I can determine. For instance, King Kong, of which many posters were produced, we cannot see that a 40"X was ever produced.
Assuredly, many of the poverty row studios were not producing them.

I do not believe that very few were printed (relative term) nor that few were ordered by theaters. Though expensive for the exhibitors I suggest that any printer in the day worth their weight would do a print run no less than 1000 quantity if not a good bit more. Once the presses rolled, the copies were a fraction of a cent to produce.

I believe these posters were used very actively in the period of their first appearing in the late 1920s to early 1930s and were often used on sandwich boards outside of theaters and within oversized marquee cases, as photos of the period show.

Heritage has sold some of the most beautiful and rare 40"Xs of this period.

They were produced in primarily two methods. One being the silk screen method which was a magnificent multi-colored poster, often with as many as twelve to fifteen color passes per poster! They were printed on a thin pulp-like paper that aged very badly and would eventually crack, break apart and disintegrate if in poor climate conditions. Thus the reason for so few to survive. Disney Studios on fact, only produced 30"X and 40"Xs for a period in the 1930s and no one sheets. All were the silk screens and almost all that survive are only known copies.

The other method was the Photo Gelatin style which were glorious color photos done in this large format yet printed just as the lobby cards of the day were done. So few of those survive due to the fact that they must stay rolled and not be folded or they would break to pieces just as a lobby would do. Assuredly, the difficulty of storage of those posters through the years was the reason for the lack of survivors from that time.

'There was also an "other company" called the Meloy Brothers who produced their own 40" X 60"s for films which seem to have been hand produced and painted collage of photos and titles, but they were not sanctioned by the studios and some have survived due to being mounted on a heavy board.

Todd Spoor has written a very good and enjoyable book called "The World's Rarest Movie Posters" devoted to the subject.

The issue of post War 40" X 60"s is a good one as well, as though there were many produced I believe, so few have survived, again due to difficulty in storage! When they appear, many have not ever been seen by the modern poster buying public.

http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7094&lotNo=83413

http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7094&lotNo=83460




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Subject: Re: [MOPO] Just a quick question: 40 x 60 silkscreens from pre-WWII

I have a number of these in my own collection.

I think they're great because of the screened printing used & the garish colors.

almost all I've ever seen, including the ones I own, have lots of pink and orange and other bright colors.

I think they're great




At 10:42 AM 3/29/2014, Channing Thomson wrote:
>3/29/14
>
>Hello MOPOers - I was just wondering how common you think 40 x 60 silk
>screens (or offsets, if they made those) are for movies from before
>WWII?  I know there are lots of these from the late 40s and the
>drive-in era but I haven't seen many pre-war.  Any thoughts on this?
>
>Thans, Channing Thomson
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