very well put John- heres how I see it.. the movie poster history is
very scattered..esp in different countrys as there is really no
bonifide sources that can be shown with documents and sustaining
evidence with the closest data Ive seen from " Learn about posters" and
a few other hearsay sources.. most of the printers would not sharethe
data, the studios had no reason to share the data as they never intended
for the posters to be sold as the revenue split with the artists and
actors and such would have been a residual nightmare.. and with poster
exchanges and national screnn serviceit seemed like a closed network,
however theater managers, advertising men, adnthe printers and studip
would pilfer the poster or some just never returned them and used for
insulation in attics and walls and floors.. IN USA at least.. when I 1st
sold posters in 77 most peopel cold not imagine them as art on the
walls only a handfull of nerdy collectors even colected and museum
laughed out loud most times although remeber POP art was being
acceptted in the 60s
but even that was odd like the winterland posters and billgrahm adn
all.. I remeber personality poster in NYC sold all the col hip like
zappa on a toilet, hendrix , Joplin and the like what we caled
Commercial posters.. later companys like Scorpio-Funky and others would
sell 1000s of the black light posters... I actually met the guy that
held the record of selling commercial posters right here in OHIO medina
Ohio,, it was called Pro arts and his million dollar seler was the
Farrah Fawcet poster that also started the girl poster Boom/// actally
after that was strmakers posters who also did the cheescake and beefcake
posters of models I sold these also... and I just found out a few months
ago that Todd fishers wife ) Katherine Hickland ) was a poster girl back
then I told them one was on ebay....so the poster moom was realy between
the 60s 70s 80s andlast one I sodl mega quanity was Michael Jackson i
sold 30K in one month in my little shop of jackson and could have done 3
x that.. it was a phenomena I had to hire offduty cops to control the
crowd lines as I was 1st in Toledo to have jackson posters brought a
roll of 300 back on a plane froma trade show in NYC...so I saw how nuts
they where in NYC and got lucky..then By mistake the shipper sent nea
duplicate order of like 1000 more .I freaked but they all sold out
within lke a week or so,, crazy times..I also sold all the metal bands
and we had over i think 5000 posters on racks in displays and more loose
in storage.. then when Video came in I started to get 1 sheets of the
video release and soon had a warehouse of 100,000 that was 13 pallets 5
foot tall each.. I pulled so many chest musles moving them... I alsi in
the 80s worked as a poster hanger in detroit for cannon and tristar and
CBS records and did many cannon films like runaway train, and chuck
norris films and maddona -the true blu album and more my memory fails
me... But i would tratde other adn only needed to do 10 sights thats
when I saw the printers who did them as they sent rolls of 300 400 to me
in the triangle boxes.. and 200 in flats...I had so manyposters i would
use some to pack other posters..I sa then that some studios shipped from
printers on east coast, midwest and west coat,,, names like Gotham,
Gore, continental, where he biggies.. so I was around this stuff in the
80s biggtime... uo till then it was not a real organized system.. the
dealers that wholsale would all buuy huge numbers but as inventorys grew
the sales dwindled.. thats why now all thats left is the stuff being
passed around from 80s that was in the supply chain.. butthe euopeans
and everyone else thought ok lets make them again in same size and
types but the runs needed are typically 10,000 in actually old school
litho..except now with digital they can do ONE= yes a 1 off poster...
witha digital file they can print you one... thats what the portal guys
went into and they sell archives of digital art on deman worldwide now..
so thats why printers ae about dead.. most survive noe by specialty
coatings and small just in time jobs...is a whole new world with
digital.. noplates , no upstart costs and its being done in asia so its
also cheap. they only deal is art sales are down as expendable income is
still rebounding..
On 2014-11-14 16:31, JOHN REID Vintage Movie .. But he emperors clothes
posters are doing pretty well. as long as people keep that wim
as to ebay... Ive been off so long due to illness i could barely launch
a add as its so many option..but I mus say the philaopino service reps
make me want t travle to the phillipines because they have a very
vibrant attitude and kindness..unlike the i don't care attitude the USA
started to have about service.. as to descriptions or false staements
... he entire ebays loaded with that on everything.. but actually china
is kicking ass as they discoverd fill orders quick and give goo price
and do beter quality..so the entire world output is good but if they
attend to the polution then we can reverse the damage being made..every
dealer I aggree should do best to do due diligence in descriptions and
many uses the Found in gramas attic to hide deception... but with time
those peopel get found out the problem I see is so much disinformation
is spread by fellow dealers about each other that that does more dmagae
to he hobby then a few portal posters that people put on ebay....... I
get calls from people all the time that say I just found a original
dracula in my attic and when I tell them its a portal they hink im
lieing to get the poster for nothhing,,, I dont like to burstthier dream
as many can have that done,,, Ive ben at autions where the auctioneers
have sold reproductions as originals and i coulndnt speak up as I would
again seem like the bad guy and watch peopel get bilked over commercial
postes... but my point is its notjust poster guys....so relax.. the
entire world screws each other on all things everyday... Lawyers
doctors, food, cars, banks and homes. etc.. noneof us ae without guuilt
or responcibility.. even movie makers... But we can I believe try to
treat each other right, help others and maybe brighten someones day with
some posters without causeing loss or harm in anyway.. I can tell you I
think this collection of the 77 year old man was sent to me like a
Rochak test or rubics cube and I fully expect to be Knihjted by the
queen if I actually figure out how to sell these and listhem without
having a full blown hissy fit... actually a nobel peace prize, a heisman
trophy, a lifetime achiement award fom he academy , and give me back the
Oscar I gave them back, a tony, a gold record and grammy and a eagle
scout badge and I will be Ok...maybe also a bag of choclate truffles as
I never had any...and a new mouse for my computer..... that's all.. well
and maybe a Howard the duck one sheet poster( sue has some :)..and ill
be all set,,,yep its a simple request i know but everyone needs a goal.
:)) there must be a life other then posters please tell me there are
snowblower discussion groups or something ?
Memorabilia wrote:
There is a distinction between repros/fakes and original posters that
are misrepresented. Reissues are often sold as original on ebay and
this is particularly prevalent with Australian posters which are not
dated. Many sellers on ebay use the excuse that they are only casual
sellers and not experts but the end result is that buyers get ripped
off. Mistakes do happen from time to time but I have often found that
when I contact the seller to let them know that the poster they are
selling is a reissue, they do nothing to correct the listing.
This is a big problem on ebay and I don’t think ebay has a clue as
to how to address it.
JOHN REID VINTAGE MOVIE MEMORABILIA
www.moviemem.com [6]
PO Box 92
Elanora
Qld 4221
Australia
On 14 Nov 2014, at 05:14, David Rew <[email protected]> wrote:
Marketing.
After 30 years in it ones learns how to do it. That said, it doesn't
always work. Sometimes success is just luck but it's all about
getting the message out there, some is free, some costs money. And
rarely does one get a free write-up in a newspaper (when promoting a
business) so you better have an angle, of course it's certainly
lucky that eBay made that statement today, I didn't ask them to time
their admission with some of my media that is coming out. Will it
pay dividends? Who knows, it won't hurt, and I am now riding that
horse a little harder at the moment.
Strike. Iron. Hot
Also, I've never been afraid of spending money on advertising, it's
not a bad word it's good business.
regards,
DAVID REW
BIDLL.COM [1]
FOR SERIOUS COLLECTORS
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