Peter, I agree with your points. I mentioned Grey and Bruce, in that, they have the rep, ability, $, and ppl to pull it off, should a new venue be warranted. On surface, Austin seems to be the place.
ad On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 10:59 AM, peter contarino <[email protected]> wrote: > Allen, > > > > That will never happen. Hershenson doesn’t even bother to attend or > support Cinevent. HA would laugh at Grey if he suggested it. As David > said it really is an act of philanthropy or more to the point a labor of > love. The problem I see coming is that although it is not a money maker for > Steve H, he has the benefit of it being more or less on auto-pilot as it > has been the same show at the same venue for decades. That is not to say he > doesn’t put a lot of effort into it, don’t misunderstand. It is just > exponentially easier to keep doing what he has been doing forever than > upending and not only finding a new venue but also rethinking marketing and > so forth that will be required to get attendance up, because attendance is > the real issue. > > > > I will have to take issue with you Zeev. If you are referring to dealers, > we have been supporting this event forever. I could make more $$ out of my > own room than buying tables and sitting behind them like a caged > animal(“that thar is what we call a dealer son, they are an endangered > species…”). If you are referring to collectors rather, Zeev, then I will > take issue with that statement as well. An event must do what it takes to > draw people. I don’t care what attendance numbers have been claimed over > the past few years, the fact is that poster dealers have been outnumbering > poster collectors for awhile now. The room is dead. Most of the attendees > are watching movies, not buying posters. To Dave R’s point, and as Ade > points out, it is largely a social event for us to see our poster friends. > All well and good, this is certainly the best part for me, but if we are > getting back to the matter at hand, carrying on a major show, and moreover > the future of same, we must talk about the reality of what this show has > become, why, and how to address it going forward. > > > > Terrible venue. > > Terrible date. Memorial weekend is a giant pain in the ass for people to > travel and be away from their families. > > No marketing. Ohio State University is one of the largest schools in the > country and happens to be in Columbus. 60K students. Even 1% would yield > 600 attendees. But they are out of school mere weeks earlier. It seems that > if you want to inject new blood, this would be a fantastic source to tap. > Hold the event a few weeks earlier and paper the campus, hit college radio, > call the local news and get them to do a segment. They would eat it up. And > so on. These are just a few ideas off the cuff. I’m sure there are many > other things that could be done. > > Auction. There was a time when the auction was a pretty decent event. With > one exception the past several auctions have yielded nearly an 80% pass > rate. Draw your own conclusions. > > > > So. What to do? I can’t see the southeast as viable. We have never hosted > a real event and it would take some time and money to grow it. The West > coast would be a hump for many of the dealers and it already holds shows. > Major cities like NYC and Chicago are cost prohibitive. Dealers barely > cover expenses now. > > > > Honestly the best suggestion is Austin. Everybody wants to go there even > without an event happening. It is a great city and supports the arts in a > major way. I think a poster show could do really well there. Tie it in with > a Film event and throw in a decent auction and you may well have a winner. > Of course this comes full circle: who wants to put the time and effort into > this? I would certainly support it and I would be willing to put additional > resources into programming Movie Poster Exchange to host the auction in > real-time online. I will be in the minority however. This hobby feels like > a race to the bottom and I see very little effort by dealers to grow it. > > > > > > > > > > *From:* MoPo List [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *allen > day > *Sent:* Thursday, February 26, 2015 8:29 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [MOPO] Will Cinevent take place this year? > > > > Hi Zeev et al, > > > > I can think of several reasons why I could not organize a show: > > > > 1. I do not know the 1st (or 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc..) thing regarding > conventions. > > 2. I have a 5 year old daughter who states that I never play with her > (after coming home from kicking the soccer ball ball around in the park for > 2 hours). > > 3. My wife really enjoys spending $ on our little girl, which means I need > to work a lot to keep the wife-a-roni happy (happy wife, happy life) > > 4. I have a full time job in health care, in which I could work a 14 hour > day every day of the week (and have done 2x this year so far, see #3 above). > > > > Seriously, though ... > > > > When I read that several locations were being 'tossed around' ... I > naturally wanted any new location to be closer to where I live, so I > facetiously suggested Charlotte. I know that the only way anything (and I > mean anything) can live / progress / improve ... is for a constant flow of > new blood ... Charlotte is one of the fastest growing areas in the US, a > nice climate (but not in the summer), lots of $ ... #1 (or 2) in US > banking, pro football, AAA baseball (both stadiums downtown). That being > said, there are no heavy hitters in posters that could pull it off (that I > am aware of). Alas, the state of NC ended tax breaks for the movie industry > this year. > > > > If there is to be a convention in a new location, it would take $$$, time, > effort to 'do it right'. Skills in marketing, planning, communication, > events, even throw in a super sweet auction. I know of 2 entities that > would be able to pull it off professionally without a hitch ... > emovieposter (Bruce) and Heritage (Grey). Those 2 guys command respect, and > 1000s of people listen. > > > > ad > > > > p.s. I'll still buy the 1st round if I ever make it to a convention. > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 9:40 PM, Zeev Drach <[email protected]> wrote: > > Allen, why don’t you organize such a show? > > > > Zeev > > > > > > > > *From:* MoPo List [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *allen > day > *Sent:* February-25-15 9:16 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [MOPO] Will Cinevent take place this year? > > > > I'm still thinking Charlotte, NC. > > > > Lots of $$ in that town, lots of young'uns (read: new blood), one of the > fastest growing areas, and it just happens to be a 1/2 hour away from where > I live. > > > > I'll even throw a bone ... first round is on me. > > > > ad > > > > On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 9:09 PM, David Kusumoto < > [email protected]> wrote: > > Cleveland and Chicago are natural choices. Cleveland is obvious, Chicago > not so obvious. Crazily enough, one of the better kept secrets is the > Hyatt Regency O'Hare. Flight crews stay there; rooms are moderately priced > and clean and it's cheap to host events - as every industry, from largest > to wildest to tiniest, hosts something there each year. Free shuttle to > and from the airport - and the hotel is a short walk to the Metro that > takes you downtown in 30 minutes for $5. NO car rental required. Hyatt is > a pricey name, but it's the cheapest property in greater Chicago because > it's near the airport in Rosemont and deep in the Chicago suburbs. -d. > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 19:21:26 -0600 > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Will Cinevent take place this year? > To: [email protected] > > Well, you know, somewhere you can fly to. > > > > > > On Feb 25, 2015, at 7:16 PM, Adrian Cowdry < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > From all that I have heard it would be better if Morrie took over the > event and held it in Cleveland - it is central - start putting Cinevent in > extreme parts of the US - East or est coast or north or south then you > stand to lose some of the dealers. Columbus was not ideal but it was > central - Cleveland is Morrie territory and it is central. Or will Cinevent > become part of Syracuse? > > > > > > *This Never Happened to the Other Fella....* > > Adrian Cowdry > [email protected] > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Brek Anderson <[email protected]> > To: MoPo-L <[email protected]> > Sent: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 1:13 > Subject: Re: [MOPO] Will Cinevent take place this year? > > Hope this is not the end of Cinevent. I think Vegas would be a great place > and we all could stay at Rich's. Brek > > > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"walter reuben" <[email protected]> > *To: *[email protected] > *Sent: *Wednesday, February 25, 2015 4:21:55 PM > *Subject: *Re: [MOPO] Will Cinevent take place this year? > > > > Awesome.... > > > > On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art < > [email protected]> wrote: > > dammit.. the Ramada is finished and will probably not reopen (ever) due to > water damage. > > > > from trip advisor: > > > > To summarize: no heat in lobby, no cable all weekend, some showers only > had scalding hot water, some showers only had ice cold water, mold in > rooms, dressers hadn't been dusted ever, never got extra towels, no cups in > rooms, no refrigerator, ice makers didn't work on any floor, phone didn't > work so couldn't call front desk, pool half full, hot tub was roped off > with a power line hanging above it, dead bat in stairwell and to top it > off....*fire alarms went off at 7 am Sunday due to pipes bursting on the > 5th floor due to no heat up there. Water gushing out of the elevators, down > stairways, flooding rooms & hallways and making at least 2 inches of ice at > the exit door.* Checking out was insane and the poor girl at the front > desk had to deal with dozens of irate customers....no management to be > found. We had over $ 4,000 worth of rooms that all refused to pay for. > > > > > so the question is at this late date will Steve Haynes be able to find a > suitable location in time and will it necessarily increase costs to attend > > > > I know the end of this hotel will please some.. but will you be as pleased > if no replacement can be found? > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MoPo-L list, click the following link: > https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L&A=1 > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MoPo-L list, click the following link: > https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L&A=1 > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MoPo-L list, click the following link: > https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L&A=1 > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MoPo-L list, click the following link: > https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L&A=1 > > > > Kirby McDaniel > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MoPo-L list, click the following link: > https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L&A=1 > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MoPo-L list, click the following link: > https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L&A=1 > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MoPo-L list, click the following link: > https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L&A=1 > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MoPo-L list, click the following link: > https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L&A=1 > Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___________________________________________________________________ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [email protected] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
