/To be fair, and correct me if I am wrong, but no other movie poster
auction house (except one) can tell you what the item will cost before
sending should you win the auction./
//
Perhaps they need to lift their game. If ebay can require all sellers
to specify postage costs up front then why shouldn’t it happen at
major auctions?
On another note, at least Heritage actually has a shipping department.
Some auction houses don’t ship items at all. They want international
bidders but they ask the buyer to arrange postage through a third party.
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*Subject:* Re: [MOPO] HA shipping costs
To be fair, and correct me if I am wrong, but no other movie poster
auction house (except one) can tell you what the item will cost before
sending should you win the auction.
But I agree in an ideal world it would be nice to know beforehand.
David
JOHN REID Vintage Movie Memorabilia wrote on 10/07/2015 2:03 PM:
The uncertainty about international postage costs at Heritage has
put me off bidding from time to time. You have to factor in the
cost of postage to determine whether it is worth bidding,
particularly on lower value items. If you don’t know how much
postage will be prior to bidding it makes it very difficult. On
higher value items it is not so important. My last two purchases
have been for very large posters and postage charges for those
were reasonable.
I sell a heck of a lot of posters on ebay and they do things very
differently there. Buyers on ebay expect full tracking and
insurance plus gorilla proof packaging but they also expect very
low postage charges. If you charge what is perceived as being too
much for postage you get trashed in the ratings. I often lose
money on postage and I’m sure other sellers are in the same position.
Postage costs will continue to rise and I certainly understand
that Heritage cannot be expected to lose money on postage and
packaging but I would like to know how much postage will be before
I bid.
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*Subject:* Re: [MOPO] HA shipping costs
I find it totally unacceptable, which is why I have asked
other MOPO members if they have had similar experiences. Why
some have a problem with that I fail to understand. If MOPO
exists to allow collectors to discuss matters of importance to
members (and they don't all live in USA) and not simply for
advertising sales, then surely the business practices of one
of the hobby’s biggest players is a matter for discussion?
Your question, in my view, was reasonable, Tommy. At MoPo - like
elsewhere - there are fiefdoms of fans for this or that dealer -
or for this or that auction house. Unfortunately, any question
that sounds legitimate to "consumers" - which also sounds like an
attack on these disparate fiefdoms - causes some to reflexively
rise to their defense, dishing out metaphors and analogies, mixed
with the occasional fact or direct/indirect quote designed to
challenge YOUR sanity, e.g., to make you appear dim-witted, dodgy
or worse for even querying the group.
Everyone, MYSELF INCLUDED, is guilty of this from time to time, as
we have our faves and biases about who's great, who's good and who
we should avoid because of documented or confessed spotty service
or bad behavior. Even known scammers who have been dragged into
courts or in the news media - have allies on these boards. Just
keep in mind that the lion's share of contributors are merchants
peddling their goods - and to be fair, most have a lot of
expertise, e.g., the recent discussion of "The Third Man" was
especially enlightening.
But the downside of merchant dominance on public forums like MoPo
is I can only count on one hand the number of pure consumers and
non-full-time sellers who choose to contribute to MoPo REGULARLY.
It's too brutal for them because they fear being attacked by paper
cuts of sarcasm. The vast majority of MoPo's small membership are
customer lurkers who are being offended every week - whose
identities I learn about via private messaging as a consumer
advocate. Even the marketing of goods, which is a primary service
provided on these boards - is fraught with controversy. If some
forum members believe it's done too frequently - or - in the eyes
of some, too flamboyantly - (as some felt Bruce H. did before he
left MoPo) - this is frowned upon, esp. benchmark-based
advertising which compares merchants with other merchants. What's
common everywhere in advertising is taboo here - yet the
disapproval, in my view, is expressed most loudly - and almost
entirely by competing merchants, not consumers. -d.
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Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2015 15:54:01 +0100
From: tommymb...@gmail.com <mailto:tommymb...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: HA shipping costs
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU <mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>
Since March 2012, I have bought a total of 182 items from HA,
ranging in price from $16 to $621. They have obviously posted many
packages to me in that time, and mostly without any complaint on
my part about shipping costs. Recently, however, I have had cause
to question the cost. The last shipment I received was initially
invoiced to me at $147.06, which I queried. I was informed that HA
had charged me at Fedex retail rate and not their discounted rate,
so the invoice was reduced to $103.25. Even so, that was expensive
for a small box of folded posters, especially considering that
the previous charge from HA was for 3 packages sent together
containing a mixture of rolled and folded (approx. 11 folded, 3
rolled including 1 linenbacked, 3 lobby cards) for which I was
charged the not entirely unreasonable amount of $122.75. I asked
that they quote me for shipping before sending any future
packages, and I received a quote (comparing like for like) of
$221.97. That was for 13 folded and 1 rolled (linenbacked) poster,
similar to that previous shipment in size but almost $100 more. I
asked for a breakdown of the cost on 20th June but received no
reply until yesterday, when I was sent exactly the same quote with
no reference to my query. (As a matter of interest, the value of
the posters in question is just over $1,000 so not, as Simon
deemed to suggest, cheap purchases.) I buy from several other U.S.
dealers and have found their postage costs to be reasonable, and
certainly never as expensive as Heritage. I have been willing to
pay their shipping charges, however, as obviously they have an
attractive offer, in the same way most people are prepared to pay
their buyers’ premium even though other online poster auctions
don’t have one. In this instance, though, I find it totally
unacceptable, which is why I have asked other MOPO members if they
have had similar experiences. Why some have a problem with that I
fail to understand. If MOPO exists to allow collectors to discuss
matters of importance to members (and they don't all live in USA)
and not simply for advertising sales, then surely the business
practices of one of the hobby’s biggest players is a matter for
discussion?
Tommy
On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Helmut Hamm <texasmu...@web.de
<mailto:texasmu...@web.de>> wrote:
Am 09.07.2015 um 13:28 schrieb Simon Oram
<fab5fre...@btinternet.com <mailto:fab5fre...@btinternet.com>>:
Look Heritage's shipping charges for the weekly slots are
expensive for overseas buyers on cheap items or items that you
thought you got for a bargain price , so move on and don't buy
from them anymore or better still set up an address in the US to
get all your stuff sent there, if you can.
What more do want?
Simon,
with all due respect, but I also had my grievances with Heritage's
shipping department in the past… Several years ago, they had GREAT
rates with Fedex, two-day international delivery, for less money
than USPS Priority Mail.
Unfortunately, the Heritage shipping department was repeatedly
unable to give me ANY estimate upfront. Nobody over there was able
or willing to tell me, what the best option for my deliveries
would've been. In consequence, I had to make a blind choice, and
pay whatever they charged me.
I mean, we're not talking about a couple of bucks here: Take a $10
poster purchase, with buyer's premium you're at roughly $25, add
$40 for shipping and 19% import tax, you end up paying $77 for
what started out as a $10 poster.
In consequence, I complete gave up bidding on low-key items with
Heritage, since they usually ended up costing me WAY too much money.
On a related topic: I guess I am somewhat sensitive about shipping
costs, but I still have to see the reason why so many ebay sellers
feel they are untitled to grant themselves a substantial premium
for shipping outside the US. None of those guys would dare to
charge $25 for a domestic package, that costs them $5 to ship, yet
they have no hesitation to charge $40 for an international
package, that costs less than $20 to ship.
Also, the common shipping option I see listed is Priority Mail
International. For most of my incoming packages, that's a waste of
money. It DOES take an extra click on the USPS website to find the
cost for First Class Mail International, and one more click to
choose the free 'delivery confirmation' option, which will provide
full tracking all the way to Germany. Then again, why go the extra
mile and ship for $20, when you can make your buyer pay $40 and
ship Priority?
Helmut
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